The goop Podcast

Gwyneth is joined by Mila Kunis who you know from That '70s Show, Black Swan, and her latest project, Goodrich. The two dive into Mila’s journey of balancing motherhood and career, her thoughts on aging, and some of the wellness rituals that keep her grounded. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by an actress, producer, and director whose work she’s admired for many years, Robin Wright. Wright released her feature directorial debut, Land (which she also stars in), about a woman suffering immeasurable loss who retreats to an abandoned cabin in the Rockies to find a new way to heal. In this episode, they talk about making career pivots, executing an artistic vision, and betting on yourself. They also discuss how we heal from trauma and why Wright felt called to make a movie about human kindness. “When you are faced with adversity,” says Wright, “it’s other humans that help pull us through and give us faith to live.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this conversation from 2020, Gwyneth catches up with her friend Kate Hudson. True to form, they cover a lot of ground: being girl moms, owning their trauma, health, culture, best (and not-so-best) onscreen kisses, and the importance of having energetic support in our lives. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode from our archives, palliative care physician BJ Miller sits down with Gwyneth live from In goop Health to talk about his own incredible personal story and wise insights about what it means to live a good life and die a good death. (P.S. Our next In goop Health is back, on November 16, 2024 in Los Angeles. To hear more conversations like this one, get your tickets here.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode from 2020, Gwyneth talks to actor and producer Julia Louis-Dreyfus about motherhood, family life, what makes a marriage work over time, and how she looks back on her career. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode from our archives, the Bridgewater Associates founder sits down with Gwyneth to talk about how they hear and hold criticism, how to have tough conversations, and how we can engage in thoughtful disagreement. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this In goop Health conversation from 2019, medical intuitive and Anatomy of the Spirit author Caroline Myss talks to Gwyneth about the mind-body-spirit connection.   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode from our archives, Gwyneth sits down with organizational psychologist and beloved Wharton professor Adam Grant to talk about being a recovering logic bully, why we mistake confidence for competence, the trap of letting our ideas become our identities, and how we can find common ground with one another while navigating charged topics. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth is joined by holistic psychologist Nicole LePera to talk about how childhood experiences shape our adult lives and the power of reparenting to create new habits. LePera explains why it can hard for many people to break from the the achievement trap, and she shares her coping strategies for when emotions become overwhelming.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth sits down with a functional nutrition and women's hormone expert to talk about how to support your body through diet, exercise, and lifestyle habits during each phase of the menstrual cycle. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The author of Modern Friendship: How to Nurture Our Most Valued Connections joins Cleo Wade to talk about the science behind modern friendship and creating meaningful connections. They explore what makes friendships fall apart, the different tiers of friendship, and how to navigate the conflicts that inevitably arise in our closest bonds. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The double board-certified pediatric neurologist shares her personal journey and how she came to found ARMRA, a company focused on colostrum products. She explains the nutrient makeup of colostrum, the role of the body’s mucosal barrier, how this barrier can be impaired, and what she does to bolster her gut and overall health. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The author of Use Your Planets Wisely and A Map to Your Soul joins us today with an astrological update. She shares five practices to prepare for the upcoming cosmic shifts that can impact our personal relationships and communities, and how we cultivate rest and joy during this season of transition. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade is joined by the author of What Do You Need? and the founder and CEO of ColorComm, a network for women of color in the workforce. They chat about the value of setting goals, how to make networking purposeful, and navigating career setbacks. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julia Hotz is a journalist and the author of The Connection Cure: The Prescriptive Power of Movement, Nature, Art, Service, and Belonging, which explores the concept of social prescribing. She joins Cleo Wade today to discuss the five key pillars that form the foundation of social prescriptions, finding okayness in difficult times, the power of flow states, and the potential for social prescribing to reshape healthcare policy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade chats with the author of Fully Alive, which reframes the concept of the seven deadly sins as a framework to explore human nature, connection, and spiritual growth in modern times. They talk about Oldfield’s journey to religion, how her faith has shifted over time, why she wanted to examine sin and Christianity, and what it means to create a fulfilling life. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth catches up with her longtime friend, and they cover a lot of ground: friendship, motherhood, how Jones made her way to The Office, what is was like growing up in Los Angeles, and where to eat in Tokyo today. Plus, Jones shares a few stories from filming her new Apple TV+ show, Sunny. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth is joined by her longtime friend to talk about learning from the wisdom of our bodies. Vlachonis shares her holistic approach to treating physical and mental pain and why she sees pain as a powerful teacher. They also discuss the tenets from her book, The Body Doesn't Lie, and the tools and practices she regularly leans on from her Greek heritage.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's a special solo episode with cohost Cleo Wade. She catches up on some of your questions: what she's looking forward to this summer, how to ask a friend for space, tips on becoming more confident, advice on navigating pregnancy anxiety and stepparenting, the books that changed her life, and more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth is joined by a sought-after dating coach to talk about building a dating strategy based on core values and intentions, why first dates should be less than hour, ways for reframing rejection, what ghosting says about you, and how to know when you've found the right person. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The former executive editor of Teen Vogue and author of The Myth of Making It joins Cleo Wade to talk about the rise and fall of girlboss culture, quiet quitting, the complex relationship between feminism and capitalism, and turning workplace disillusionment into positive change. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The New York Times–bestselling author of You Could Make This Place Beautiful joins Cleo Wade to talk about her journey through divorce, the writing process, her view on forgiveness today, and what happens when we allow ourselves to hold contradictions and complicated feelings at the same time.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade is joined by the Wisdom of the Path author to talk about tapping into the power of your inner wisdom, ways for redefining your intentions, and the value of community and vulnerability in the healing process. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we're revisiting a 2019 conversation from The goop Podcast archives with Gwyneth's longtime friend, the legendary yoga teacher Eddie Stern. They reminisce about the 1990s, when GP first walked into his studio, and discuss the connection between movement, emotion, and breath. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In his new book, Mind Magic: The Neuroscience of Manifestation and How It Changes Everything, James Doty explains the process of manifestation. He joins Gwyneth to talk about why we sometimes manifest things that are wrong for us, and how we can better emotionally regulate, and ultimately make space for and move toward what brings us happiness. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade sits down with the Other People's Words author to talk about friendship, grief, and how the words of our loved ones live on—sometimes through us—after they're gone. Soep shares how, after losing two close friends in different ways, she discovered traces of their voices and language through voicemails, letters, and emails, and how these ordinary artifacts take on a different meaning after loss. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth is joined by the author of Why We Remember to talk about how memory works, how it shapes our identities, and what makes something memorable. Ranganath explains what he's learned from studying the brain and how it processes certain events, and he shares the short- and long-term things we can do to improve our memory.   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth talks with the fashion designer and entrepreneur about turning 50, the formula for a long marriage, and why she wanted to get into the fashion and beauty businesses. They talk about their families, what it's like to pivot from one career into another, and their favorite Spice Girls songs. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is a special episode from our archives: In 2018, shortly after we launched The goop Podcast, Gwyneth sat down with her own mom, actress Blythe Danner. The two opened up to each other about old boyfriends, what it was like acting together, things they'd approach differently at this stage of their lives, and more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The founder of Brown Girl Therapy and the author of But What Will People Say? joins Cleo Wade to talk about belonging, family, and identity. Kohli examines her own experiences as a child of South Asian immigrants, and the pressure to present different versions of herself across different cultural contexts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sue Varma, author of Practical Optimism, served as the first medical director and attending psychiatrist at the World Trade Center Mental Health Program, treating civilian and first-responder survivors in the aftermath of 9/11. She shares how her work there led her to develop a framework for practical optimism. She explains what it means to be a practical optimist (and why it's different than blind optimism), ways for moving forward if you're feeling stuck, and how small intentional changes have the power to impact our physical and emotional health. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Legendary author Anne Lamott discusses the many ways love can transform us. She shares how she learned to break free from perfectionism, the spiritual value of crying, the mantras that help ground her in self-love, and her new book Somehow. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katara McCarty is the founder of Exhale, an app focused on the mental wellness of Black women. Today, she shares her personal life story with Gwyneth. They talk about how McCarty’s work has been informed by a unique survey she conducted in 2023. And what it means to hold space: “I think that holding space takes acknowledging the fullness of the person you’re holding space for,” McCarty says. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth is joined by Lisa Mosconi, author of The Menopause Brain. Mosconi is an associate professor of neurology at Weill Cornell Medicine and the director of its Women’s Brain Initiative and the Alzheimer’s Prevention Program. Today, Mosconi explains how hormonal shifts during perimenopause and menopause can impact cognitive health and shares some of the clinical trials and brain-imaging work her lab is doing to better understand this stage of life. They about the foods that can support brain health at any stage of life and Mosconi’s perspective on why menopause can be seen as an opportunity, particularly from an evolutionary standpoint. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today, we’re sharing a conversation from our last In goop Health summit. Kim Little is a software developer, lifelong meditator, and cofounder of Moments of Space, a new meditation app that teaches an eyes-open technique. Little joined Gwyneth onstage to talk about how we can find deep connection throughout the everyday. (GP uses the eyes-open technique during her walks and has found it so beneficial that she’s recently come on as a co-owner and community director at Moments of Space.) At the end of their conversation, Little shares three ways to approach the eyes-open method and guides us through a live meditation. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The author of Conscious Grieving: A Transformative Approach to Healing from Loss joins Cleo Wade to discuss how we go about rebuilding a life, or finding wisdom in grief. They talk about how men and women often process their emotions differently, and why it can be difficult to acknowledge loss and to sit with our grief. "We have to start by just being in it, and it's actually the hardest thing because everyone tries to move out of it as quickly as possible," says Bidwell Smith. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade is joined by Corey Keyes, author of Languishing: How to Feel Alive Again in a World That Wears Us Down. In today's conversation, Keyes explains how he measures the states of languishing and flourishing, and what we get wrong about mental health. And he shares the personal story of his own search for meaning, which sparked his research all the way back in 2002. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth is joined by the Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist and author of Supercommunicators to talk about the art and science behind meaningful conversation. Duhigg explains the three types of conversations, what makes certain ones work, and the traits of highly effective communicators. He also shares a few tools for reframing difficult conversations and his most important tip for moving past small talk. And at the end, GP shares the dinner-party question she likes to ask to build connection. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade is joined today by Cole Arthur Riley to discuss her new book— Black Liturgies: Prayers, Poems, and Meditations for Staying Human—and her personal journey through spirituality. Riley shares what led her to write a prayer book that embraces questioning as part of faith and what happened after she allowed herself to question her own spiritual beliefs. They talk about discovering spiritual communities among writers and artists, using breath and other rituals as a form of prayer, and finding the beauty and meaning in contemplation. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Psychotherapists Barry Michels and Kristan Sargeant lead this special episode—part workshop, part conversation—on the shadow. (Michels is perhaps best known for cowriting The Tools and his pioneering psychotherapy work with his coauthor Phil Stutz, which Sargeant continues to evolve.) For them, the shadow is the tool that has the potential to bring about the greatest growth and transformation. How to begin to use it? Today, they walk you through getting to know your own shadow—the parts of yourself that you've rejected or pushed deep down into the unconscious. They show how your shadow can become an incredible source of wisdom. And a conduit to living as your full, authentic self. (To join their work on the shadow, see their upcoming event lineup.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lindsay Peoples, the editor-in-chief of the Cut and cofounder of the Black in Fashion Council, says she was a people pleaser growing up. In today's conversation, she explains why she's not anymore, and she answers questions about what drives boldness. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gwyneth asks her friend Beatrice Dixon to share the incredibly unique personal story behind her brand the Honey Pot. It’s an unexpected, and awe-inspiring, conversation. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our guest today is Bonnie Wan, creator and author of The Life Brief, which is her transformative three-step tool for helping people reimagine their lives and gain clarity on what they really want. Wan joined Cleo Wade to talk about why she created the process for herself and what happened when she allowed herself to unearth her truths. "This is a practice of curiosity," says Wan. "So one insight leads to more questions and those questions unpack more insights." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined today by actress Michelle Yeoh. They talked about Yeoh's beginnings as a ballet dancer in England, which unexpectedly led to her career in acting, and how she landed her first commercial with Jackie Chan. They talked about responsibility in family and why Yeoh decided early on in her career to step away from acting to prioritize her first marriage and how she feels about that decision now. Other highlights: how the pair felt winning their respective Oscar awards at very different stages in their lives, maintaining friendships with exes, what it was like for Yeoh to work with GP’s husband on The Brothers Sun, and what they order at dim sum. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We don't allow ourselves to just kind of let our shoulders go down and trust that we are enough and we’re exactly what our kids need and that it’s not as complicated as it’s made out to be,” says Aliza Pressman, author of The 5 Principles of Parenting and host of the Raising Good Humans podcast. In this conversation, Pressman talks through the importance of having a strength-based (vs. deficit) approach to parenting; the difference between boundaries, limits, and rules; and how to use the five principles to build resilience. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re kicking off 2024 with something a little different: a conversation between Enneagram coach Courtney Smith and psychological astrologer Jennifer Freed, PhD. In this episode, the two friends join each other to talk about the astrological themes to expect in the new year and how the Enneagram system of personality types can be used to help us see challenges as opportunities for growth. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For our last episode of 2023, instead of being joined by a guest, cohost and New York Times-bestselling author Cleo Wade is doing a special round of Ask-Me-Anything reflecting on the last year, what she thinks about resolutions, and her New Year’s Eve traditions. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we're sharing a special conversation from our archives. In January 2020, Gwyneth sat down with Eckhart Tolle, the legendary spirituality teacher and bestselling author of The Power of Now and A New Earth. They discussed the profound transformation Tolle had in his twenties that changed the course of his life. And Tolle taught us how to break from our own ego and bring awareness to the emotions that we tend to sublimate.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We cannot feel well physically or mentally unless we are feeling loved by the people around us and the way that we do that is by being good listeners,” says Peoplehood cofounder Julie Rice. In this week’s episode, Cleo Wade sits down with Rice to talk about her entrepreneurial journey from founding SoulCycle to the impetus behind Peoplehood, a guided group practice where people can share, listen, and cultivate their interpersonal relationship skills. “Relationships are a process, and they take time and attention and work and love,” says Rice. “And the same grit and ambition that you give to your career and all the other things need to go into relationships. They don't just happen.” (After you listen, head to Peoplehood and use code Peoplehood1 for a free gathering session.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this live podcast conversation straight from our In goop Health wellness summit, GP was joined by three inspiring women who shared the stories behind their life changes. They talked about making career pivots, how they've come to resist binary thinking when it comes to success, and how motherhood expanded their definitions of purpose. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Raquel Willis is an activist, author, and media strategist whose work focuses on Black transgender liberation. Willis joins Cleo Wade today to talk about her debut memoir, The Risk It Takes to Bloom, and making peace with her younger self while chipping away at the idea of wanting to tell a "pristine" story. They also talk about the moment Willis' path into activism became clear, and her advice for those who are afraid of saying the wrong thing in the journey toward collective liberation. (To hear more from Willis, tune into her new podcast series, Afterlives.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"There's probably nothing that feels more valuable than getting intimate with our own hearts," says Tara Brach. "We need it. We need it in this world." Drop into this conversation between GP and Brach, who shares her insights about what it means to open our hearts to ourselves and to others. Brach teaches us how we can soften and create space for each other, and why it's necessary to process our feelings so they don't unwittingly rule our lives. Of course, Brach and GP talk about using the RAIN practice for coping with big emotions, and they do a mini meditation together for listeners who'd like to hear—and experience—it in action. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"Folks were not used to seeing or hearing people that look like me delivering them the news, giving them the facts, helping them unpack and understand things," says Symone Sanders. Sanders is an author, seasoned democratic strategist, and the host of “Symone” on MSNBC. She joins Cleo Wade to talk about her path to becoming the youngest presidential press secretary on record at 25 and why she felt compelled to get into politics and media at a young age. She shares how she manages the demands of a high-pressure career while taking care of herself during difficult news cycles and her advice for young people looking to make a positive impact in their communities and in the world. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"I've earned the right to evolve into somebody different," says Halle Berry. The actor joins GP to talk about what her inner dialogue sounds like at age 57 and the identity shift that comes around during the back half of life. Berry shares why she feels empowered by menopause and why her own health trajectory led her to getting involved with Pendulum Therapeutics, a company focused on metabolic health through microbiome products. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shiza Shahid is an activist, an investor, and cofounder of the Malala Fund and Our Place. Shahid sat down with cohost Cleo Wade in front of a live audience to talk about her life journey, building a business rooted in social impact, how to make a difference in the causes you care about, and the mantra she uses to redirect pressure and anxiety.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A wide-ranging and tender conversation between our two podcast cohosts—that includes a sneak listen of Cleo's new, beautiful book Remember Love. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today, instead of being joined by a guest, GP takes a trip down memory lane and answers questions—from her closest friends, colleagues, and mentors—about what she's learned over the past 15 years of building goop. What advice would she give to her younger self? What is she most proud of? What is she looking forward to in this next chapter? And more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by Dr. Taz Bhatia, a board-certified integrative medicine physician and the author of the new book, The Hormone Shift. They talk through the most effective ways to navigate through five key hormonal shifts in our lives, why hormonal testing can—and should—be done as early as our teenage years, the tenets of Bhatia's 30-day plan for balancing hormones at any age, and her perspective on hormone replacement therapy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by her friend, Nicole Avant. Avant is a producer, a philanthropist, and the author of Think You’ll Be Happy, her upcoming memoir which centers around her late mother, Jacqueline Avant. In their conversation, GP and Avant talk about forgiveness, faith, resiliency, and how we metabolize tragedy. Avant also talks about her father, the legendary music executive Clarence Avant, and the wisdom he imparted on her.  After you listen, preorder Avant’s book, which comes out October 17. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today, instead of being joined by a guest, cohost and New York Times-bestselling author Cleo Wade is doing a round of Ask-Me-Anything, where she answers a handful of your questions ahead of the upcoming tour for her new book, Remember Love. True to form, Wade covers a lot of ground: what her morning routine looks like, advice for starting a new chapter in life, how to ask for help, and more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade is joined by human design expert Jenna Zoe. Zoe’s new book, Human Design, explores the principles of the personality system and how to use it to reveal your purpose and your gifts. Today, they talk about how we can begin to reconnect with our inner selves and why human design can help us on our journey toward self-discovery.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Laura Modi is the CEO and co-founder of Bobbie, the first woman-owned, organic infant formula brand in the U.S. Before starting Bobbie, Modi was an executive at Airbnb, and before that, she was at Google. Today, she joins GP to talk about the moment that spurred the investigation that led her to Bobbie and how her work is recalibrating more broadly how we think about and value motherhood.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thomas Curran is a social and personality psychologist, a professor at the London School of Economics, and the author of The Perfection Trap. He joins GP today to talk about the psychology of perfectionism, its effect on a broader scale, and how being vulnerable can move us forward. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justina Blakeney is a designer, artist, New York Times-bestselling author, and the founder of Jungalow. She joins Cleo Wade today to talk about her evolution, balancing creativity and entrepreneurship, not putting yourself in a box, and how she's learned to face discomfort while carving a path on her own terms. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nina Westbrook is a licensed marriage and family therapist, host of the Relationship Chronicles podcast, and the founder of the digital wellness community, Bene by Nina. She joins Cleo Wade today to talk about her journey toward mental health and her approach to breaking down the stigma of therapy. They talk about parenting, the importance of community for our well-being, having value-centered friendships, and what it means to be able to see parts of ourselves in other people’s stories. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, we’re sharing again one of our favorite conversations that we keep returning to. In 2019, GP and author Elizabeth Gilbert sat down in front of a live audience to talk about creativity as a tool for healing. They talked about grief, the connection between spirituality and the creative process, the power in fear, and how there are different ways to create in the world even if you do not see yourself as a creative person. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Casper ter Kuile is the author of The Power of Ritual, which explores how people find meaning and connection through community and everyday practices. He joins Cleo Wade today to talk through what he's uncovered in his work on belonging, the difference between religion and spirituality, and why small groups can be a powerful force for personal and collective transformation. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julius Few, MD, is a top plastic surgeon known for his subtle approach. He joins GP today to answer her questions on aging, longevity, the future of the facelift, and non-surgical advancements he's excited about. They talk about their collaboration on goop's new Youth-Boost Peptide Serum, and Few shares his perspective on popular trends and the emotional side of cosmetic surgery. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Author and interior designer Athena Calderone is the internet's go-to resource for hosting tips, recipes, and advice on turning a house into a haven. Today, Calderone joins her friend Cleo Wade to talk about taking risks, combating imposter syndrome, the early days of her lifestyle website EyeSwoon, and simple ways to infuse more feeling into our homes. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Shine Bright School founder speaks with GP about internalized beliefs they’ve explored in their lives, friendships between Black and White women, and what propels us out of a shame spiral and into healing and action. (To go deeper, sign up for an online anti-racism course at ShineBrightSchool.com—you might begin with Unity Over Comfort.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tara Mohr is a career coach and the author of Playing Big. In this special episode, Mohr guides us through an audio workshop on breaking free from our inner critic. (And she explains why the solution is not developing more confidence.) She shares four practical tools to use in the moment when self-doubt arises and teaches us how to change the narrative. (For more on inner critic work, head to Mohr's website.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Leah Thomas is the author of The Intersectional Environmentalist and the founder of a nonprofit that focuses on climate education, advocacy, and inclusivity in environmentalism work. She joins Cleo Wade to talk about why social justice is critical to solving climate change, how she stays optimistic about the future, and what we can do to widen our perspective and do less harm on a personal level. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aminatou Sow is the New York Times–bestselling author of Big Friendship, which she co-wrote with her best friend Ann Friedman. In today's conversation with Cleo Wade, Sow reflects on how going to therapy with Friedman helped them emerge as different but deeper friends. Sow also talks through friendship endings, and she shares her advice for creating new friendships and celebrating our bonds together. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katrina Lake is the founder, interim CEO, and executive chairperson of Stitch Fix, an online personal shopping service where human stylists and algorithms curate clothing for you. Today, Lake joins GP to talk about how she pushed through moments of doubt to become the youngest woman to take a company public. They talk about rejection, mentors, navigating different leadership styles, and how to approach difficult conversations at work. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nedra Glover Tawwab, the New York Times-bestselling author of Set Boundaries, Find Peace and Drama Free, joins Cleo Wade to share her wisdom and practical advice on navigating families, friendship, work, and therapy. They talk about what is at the root of jealousy, how to normalize anger, and strategies for creating healthy boundaries with teenagers. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Bruce Feiler's latest book, The Search: Finding Meaningful Work in a Post-Career World, he explores how people navigate through "workquakes," or work transitions, drawing from hundreds of real life stories from people across the country. He joins GP to talk about why we've been inculcated with the idea that there is a linear path to success and why it's time to rethink what it means to have a career. He shares his insights on how people can move through periods of change with purpose and clarity, and the questions to ask to find the work we want. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rachel Cargle is an activist and the author of A Renaissance of Our Own: A Memoir and Manifesto on Reimagining. Today, she joins Cleo Wade to talk about the personal transformation that changed the course of her life. They explore the power of rest, ways to deepen our relationship to our body, and the beauty that comes with imagining what's possible for us—and the world. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The iconic mother-daughter duo share the journey that led them from an unexpected health crisis to writing a book together: Honey, Baby, Mine. They chat with cohost Cleo Wade about why we tend to wear masks with the people closest to us, and how they gathered the courage to have honest conversations with each other. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Peter Attia received his medical degree from Stanford University School of Medicine, trained for five years at Johns Hopkins Hospital in general surgery, and spent two years with NIH as a surgical oncology fellow at the National Cancer Institute. He is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice focused on lifespan and healthspan, the host of The Drive podcast, and author of the #1 New York Times–bestseller Outlive. Today, Attia explains how to mitigate cognitive decline, the technologies he’s most excited about, and ways to optimize your sleep and exercise routines. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade catches up with actor, producer, and director Sanaa Lathan. They chat about having gut instincts in friendships, how a spiritual guide changed the trajectory of Lathan’s career, why she resists being called a role model, and the force of gratitude in their lives. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The love that can be between two people is actually a powerful life force that can do tremendous things if you circle it back out again,” says poet and memoirist Elizabeth Alexander. Alexander is the president of the Mellon Foundation, which is the largest funder of arts, culture, and the humanities in America. She joins Cleo Wade to talk about keeping alive the work of the people who came before us, why creativity can be in service of our communities, and the difference between evolution and revolution. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP talks with the actor, producer, and now skin-care founder about what spurred her investigation into clean beauty, how she manages to stay off social media, and what she’s learned from marriage. And, yes, they reminisce about movie sets and their costars. For more, you can shop Johansson's skin-care line The Outset and learn how she gets her skin ready in under three minutes on goop. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“So much of life is staying open to our own bewilderment,” says Cheryl Strayed. This week, Cleo Wade sits down with the Wild author to talk about the origins of her beloved advice column, Dear Sugar, and what she’s learned through writing about loss, connection, and self-forgiveness. (Tiny Beautiful Things, the show based on Strayed’s book, is out now on Hulu.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"That's the beauty of art," says Sade Lythcott. "It holds a mirror up to both your beauty and your pain, and it grabs you by the heart and hand and says, 'We can turn this into something beautiful.'" Lythcott is the CEO of the National Black Theater in New York. Today, she joins our new cohost Cleo Wade to talk about the power of storytelling, how grief can push us to harness our courage, and why honesty is a profound tool for self-care. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade—poet, author, and new cohost of The goop Podcast—joins GP to talk about the threads that inspire her and keep her curious and creative. They talk about bringing awareness to blind spots, when anger is informative and when the emotion is hiding from you, and a liberating thing Wade says she has learned to do for herself. “Allow people to have their side of the story,” says Wade. Plus, GP asks Wade who she’s looking forward to having on the podcast and the conversations she most wants to explore.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In his new book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, IFMCP, DNM, DC, uses research and lessons gathered from his patients to illuminate the gut-brain connection and the relationship between our physical and emotional well-being. He joins GP today to talk about ways to nurture the nervous system, why eating gut-calming foods can help with mental health, and the process Cole takes his patients through to help them reconnect with their body and trust their gut instinct again. (For more, sign up for a live virtual conversation with GP and Cole—your ticket from Penguin Bookshop includes a copy of the book.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP and Kerry Washington sat down in front of a live audience to talk about the impetus behind Washington’s new Hulu series, UnPrisoned. They chatted about searching for our blind spots, father-daughter dynamics, their high school days, and the moment Washington realized she needed to become the protagonist of her own journey. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Katherine May’s newest book, Enchantment: Awakening Wonder in an Anxious Age, she explores our deep disconnection from the world around us and how rediscovering wonder and awe can help us feel whole again. Today, May joins GP to talk about what happens when we find the humility to stay open and curious to the world around us. May shares how she’s learned to embrace the practice of fluidity, and she shares steps we can take to reconcile what isn’t in our control. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week's episode is guest hosted by Ambi Kavanagh, a sound healer, astrologer, life coach, and founder of Alchemy with Ambi. She joins us today to guide us through an immersive sound bath using her signature planetary gongs that are tuned to the frequencies of each planet. In this energetic meditation, Kavanagh invites us to slow down and clear our minds as we move through the next few weeks of the season. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I thought I had already failed at motherhood, and I did not even have a child yet,” says Jessica Grose, New York Times opinion writer and author of Screaming on the Inside: The Unsustainability of American Motherhood. Today, the parenting columnist joins Erica Chidi to share what she’s learned over the course of her career, examining the social, political, and economic issues intertwined with modern parenting. They talk about friendship, mom-influencers, and Grose’s vision for reimagining the way we support caregivers in this country. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Whitney Wolfe Herd is the founder and CEO of Bumble, a female-focused dating app she launched in 2014 after leaving another popular dating app called Tinder (which she also founded). Today, she joins GP to talk about how her own experiences informed the way she designed Bumble, how she tends to her marriage and motherhood, the reason she believes people act the way they do online, and her vision for a different online future. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sophia Roe—James Beard award-winning chef and Emmy-nominated host of the food news show Counter Space—shares her personal journey into the culinary industry. Plus: her take on the future of food, the ingredient she predicts is going to take over, and where she loves to eat in New York City right now.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Danielle Prescod is the author of Token Black Girl, her memoir about her experiences as a Black woman in the beauty and fashion industry. She joins Erica Chidi to discuss how pop culture and media influenced her early self-identity, why she chose to write her story, and what changes Prescod hopes to see in the industry today. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Maya Feller is a registered dietitian and author of the new goop press cookbook, Eating from Our Roots: 80+ Healthy Home-Cooked Favorites from Cultures Around the World. In this episode, Fellers shares her non-prescriptive approach to food and nutrition, baseline recommendations for cooking for chronic conditions, thoughts on intermittent fasting, and different ways to bring more joy and flavor into the kitchen. And, Feller and GP discuss the big questions and challenges surrounding healthy eating, privilege, and access. (For more from Feller and GP, tune into their conversation this Thursday, January 26—they'll be answering your questions in real time.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Myisha Battle, certified sex and dating coach and the author of This is Supposed to Be Fun, explains her inclusive and values-based approach to sex and dating. She shares her advice for cultivating authenticity, managing first-date burnout, and expressing and receiving your desires. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katy Perry visited GP at goop HQ, where they sat down with De Soi (Perry’s line of sparking non-alcoholic aperitifs) and spent some time catching up. They talked about spirituality, Perry’s path to wholeness, and how she came to define her purpose and center it around joy. They shared some of the lessons they’ve learned through therapy, what intimacy looks like in a true partnership—and GP gives Perry the piece of advice that she had yearned for at Perry’s age. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, psychological astrologer Jennifer Freed and intuition coach Mory Fontanez guide us through the astrological themes to expect in the new year. They share their advice for fostering meaningful relationships, a tool for repairing mistakes, and how to tap into your intuitive powers and connect with your inner wisdom. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kim Kardashian visited GP at goop HQ, where they sat down and talked about Kardashian’s inner life and how her adolescent years shaped the person she is today. GP asks her about how she manages social media with her children, what mornings and evenings in her household really look like, and if she sees herself getting married again. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Roya Rastegar is an Iranian American academic and a founding member of the Iranian Diaspora Collective, which is a nonpartisan multifaith group amplifying the voices of Iranians in Iran. She joins GP to discuss the ongoing uprising being led by young Iranian women, why it’s not only about women’s rights but human rights everywhere, and actionable ways to support this critical movement. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Melody Beattie is the bestselling author of Codependent No More (which she originally published in 1986 and updated in 2022). "I believe codependents are anyone who consistently love other people more—or to the detriment of loving themselves," says Beattie. "It's hard for codependents to consider their own needs as being valid, especially in the face of other people's needs." Beattie joins Erica Chidi today to explore the roots of codependency, how she first came to understand this term while working as an addiction counselor, and ways to manage codependent triggers. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Duran, head of Goldman Sachs Personal Financial Management, on his early life and how he reframed his thinking around happiness, success, and financial well-being. He talks about navigating setbacks, what to make of this current financial climate, and how to identify your money mind—a framework he and his team developed to help people articulate what matters to them. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cassie Holmes is a professor at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management and author of Happier Hour: How to Beat Distraction, Expand Your Time, and Focus on What Matters Most. In this episode, she explains why having more free time doesn’t necessarily make our lives more meaningful, and she shares strategies for reframing the hours that we do have so that they are more enjoyable, fulfilling, and productive. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chelsey Luger, coauthor of The Seven Circles: Indigenous Teachings for Living Well, on ancient Indigenous practices for well-being, more thoughtful ways to navigate cultural appropriation, and what we can all learn from our own ancestors. (Luger cowrote the book with her husband Thosh Collins and together they also started the Indigenous wellness initiative Well for Culture.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Non-attachment says I can go for this thing, I can work as hard as I want to on it, but I’m also willing not to have it,” says legendary psychiatrist Phil Stutz. Stutz is known for his visualization exercises (called the tools) which he uses to help people overcome blocks to create lasting change. He joins GP to talk about why the tools work and how to tap into the invisible forces that collectively and individually move us forward. (After listening to this episode, be sure to watch Stutz, a new Netflix documentary directed by Jonah Hill about Stutz’s work.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Liz O’Donnell is an author and the founder of Working Daughter, a community for women navigating eldercare, career, family, relationships, and everything else in life. She joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about being part of the sandwich generation that is caring for aging parents and growing children at the same time. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her friend, actress Lake Bell. They talk about Bell’s fascination with the human voice and what she learned while researching her new audiobook, Inside Voice: My Obsession with How We Sound. In today’s conversation, GP and Bell unpack why we’re drawn to certain voices, the role that voice can play in gender and identity, the phenomenon known as the “sexy baby voice,” and why we hate listening to the sound of our own.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Liz Goldwyn is a filmmaker, the founder of The Sex Ed (an online community and podcast dedicated to sexual well-being), and an author (her latest book is Sex, Health & Consciousness). Goldwyn joins Erica Chidi to talk about how she reframed her thinking around sex and desire. They talk about intentional celibacy as a tool for self-discovery, mutual masturbation, how to increase your porn literacy, and what we can learn from the fetish community. And at the end of the episode, Goldwyn shares a meditation for connecting mind, body, and sexuality. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We all have the opportunity to unlock our personal traits that we may have discounted,” says Julia Boorstin, CNBC’s senior media and tech correspondent and author of When Women Lead. For her book, Boorstin interviewed many women leaders, GP among them. In her reporting, Boorstin found that successful female leaders shared a few common threads that helped them push through male-dominated industries. She shares these threads—and how we can all incorporate them into our daily lives to make them more meaningful. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shilpa Ravella is a transplant gastroenterologist and the author of A Silent Fire: The Story of Inflammation, Diet, and Disease, which explores the role of chronic inflammation in today’s diseases. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about how the modern diet and our current environment, including stress and trauma, could be impacting us. And Ravella shares the dietary and lifestyle practices that could be beneficial for both human and planetary health. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In today’s episode, GP is joined by psychological astrologer Jennifer Freed, PhD. Freed is the author of the new book A Map to Your Soul. In it, she explores how using the astrology of fire, earth, air, and water can help us live in alignment with our authentic selves—which Freed calls living a fully expressed life. GP and Freed talk about why we generally fear speaking our truth, the journey into self-acceptance, big friendship, romantic chemistry, and how to negotiate the different parts of ourselves. Last, Freed shares a preview for what’s coming in 2023. For more, join GP and Freed for a virtual event on October 11. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP sat down with her husband, Brad Falchuk, to talk about turning 50. Falchuk shares his perspective on navigating milestones and changes as we age. They reflect on what their parents were like when they were 50 and how their own children have recontextualized their lives. They discuss stepparenting, reinventing second marriages, grief, and what they’re both looking forward to in their next chapter together. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julie and John Gottman are renowned marriage experts and the cofounders of the Gottman Institute, where they provide couples with the tools to help them get their partnerships back on track. In their new book, The Love Prescription, the Gottmans share their research-based approach for strengthening relationships. They join Erica Chidi to talk about the small yet effective shifts that can help increase intimacy and connection over seven days.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Healing is becoming whole,” says Gabor Maté, MD. “You can cure something without that person becoming whole. Sometimes people become whole without being cured.” The acclaimed author is back with a new book, The Myth of Normal, which explores the links between illness, chronic stress, and our cultural and physical environments. He joins Erica Chidi to recontextualize the path toward health and healing. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Parents don’t repair with their kids because they’re in such a shame spiral,” says clinical psychologist Becky Kennedy. “But until you can find your own goodness under your latest bad behavior, you cannot go to your child from a place of generosity and connection.” Kennedy is a sought-after parenting coach, the founder of the global parenting community Good Inside, and author of Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be. She joins GP to talk about conscious parenting, what’s at the root of projection, and how we can break free from self-doubt and work toward connection and empathy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The majority of learning I really believe happens outside of the classroom,” says Kat Cohen. “And you have to be surrounded by people who are different from you to expand your mind.” Cohen is an independent university admissions counselor and the founder of Ivywise, an educational consulting company that is helping to demystify the college admissions experience. She joins GP today to talk about the current landscape and her holistic approach to counseling students and families as they prepare for college and beyond. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nedra Glover Tawwab is a licensed therapist and the New York Times-bestselling author of Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself. She joins Erica Chidi to discuss the importance of maintaining boundaries, how to get comfortable advocating for yourself, and strategies for setting boundaries with our families. “The boundary is the space for you to stand up for yourself, assert your needs, and speak your values to the other people in your life,” says Tawwab. (In case you missed it: GP shared her latest skin care secret at the end of the episode. Head here to take 15 percent off our new Sleep Milk—and more goop beauty products—using code SLEEPMILK15. Valid August 9 through September 9, 2022. Full terms and conditions available here.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Integrative dietician and menopause expert Esther Blum joins GP today to talk about her approach for treating women during menopause. Blum shares her nutrition-based perspective on perimenopause and menopause, and her advice on treatment options, lifestyle recommendations, and ways to advocate for yourself through the process. After you listen, preorder Blum’s new book, See Ya Later, Ovulator, which comes out on October 4. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chantel Prat is a brain researcher, a professor at the University of Washington, and the author of The Neuroscience of You: How Every Brain is Different and How to Understand Yours. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about how to better understand our individual brain strengths and why embracing our different brains can help open us up to more connection and understanding. Prat also breaks down what’s true and not true about left- and right-brained thinking, the best way to care for our brains as we age, and the benefits of bilingualism. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“All societies have drugs that they’re okay with and they draw these lines and they draw them in ways that can seem very arbitrary,” says Michael Pollan, New York Times–bestselling author of This Is Your Mind on Your Plants and host of the new Netflix series, How to Change Your Mind. GP interviewed Pollan about the relationship between humans and plants and how he initially became interested in psychoactive plants as an avid gardener. They talk about the value of caffeine, what surprised Pollan while studying opium, what was unearthed for him during a powerful psilocybin experience, and why he believes MDMA is useful for couple's therapy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“No one ever asked me if I was happy,” says Selma Blair. “And it’s such a big question.” The actress and author of the new memoir Mean Baby joins GP to talk about the journey that led to Blair’s multiple sclerosis diagnosis and how she’s come to embrace change at fifty. Blair explains how she found healing through books and writing, how she’s learned to be kinder to her younger self, and the forces that have shaped her as a mother. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We don’t talk about this stage of life as being an exquisitely vulnerable time,” says psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock, author of Quarterlife: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about why society tends to overlook people in their early twenties and thirties and how to better support the transition into adulthood. They discuss historical examples of the quarterlife experience, and Byock shares her roadmap for navigating this period. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The reason that I get so excited about future thinking and helping people play with future scenarios is that those are the habits that keep our mind unstuck,” says future forecaster, game designer, and author Jane McGonigal. In her book, Imaginable: How to See the Future Coming and Feel Ready for Anything, McGonigal shares tools—and games—for envisioning the future before it arrives. She and GP talk about the signals that shape change (and how to spot them yourself) and why video games have the potential to help us heal. Toward the end, McGonigal shares what gives her hope for the future and her predictions on what we should be paying attention to in the next ten years. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Erica Chidi is joined by comedian Catherine Cohen, author of God I Feel Modern Tonight. Cohen’s debut Netflix comedy special, The Twist…? She’s Gorgeous, is a cabaret-inspired performance exploring the often cringe-worthy millennial experience. In this episode, Chidi and Cohen talk about how Cohen learned to get comfortable making fun of herself. They also discuss wellness routines, what makes Cohen feel most vulnerable, and why it’s okay to be bored sometimes.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Erica Chidi is joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Matt Richtel, author of Inspired: Understanding Creativity—A Journey through Art, Science, and the Soul. They talk about where creativity comes from, how to harness it, and why the creative process is often embedded with fear. Richtel explains that the fear begins early—around the fourth grade—when kids start internalizing what society deems as right and wrong. They close by discussing the value of mind-wandering and why creativity matters. “It is nature’s way of encouraging us to break through the status quo,” says Richtel. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Phillip Picardi is known in part for his work as an award-winning journalist and editor. He rebranded Teen Vogue (where he became the chief content officer at age twenty-six) and he launched and founded Them, a community-driven platform for LGBTQ+ youth. After years of working in journalism, Picardi decided to go back to school—Harvard Divinity School, where he just received his master’s degree in religion and public life. In this episode, GP and Picardi talk about why he decided to re-examine his relationship to Christianity, the duality between his identity and his faith, and what galvanizes his beliefs today. They end with a game: Picardi puts GP to the test with Pride Month trivia questions. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Fariha Roísín’s book, Who Is Wellness For, she explores how wellness culture has been distilled and commodified from the cultural traditions of Black, Brown, and Indigenous people. Today, she joins Erica Chidi to discuss her path through wellness, how we can care for ourselves and be in relationship to one another, and how we can invest in both individual healing and the collective well-being of our planet and our people. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I teach people how to put themselves aside and listen and respond with generosity,” says therapist Terry Real. “Our culture doesn’t teach us how to do these things. We have to learn them.” In this open conversation with GP, Real explains why individualism and patriarchy has damaged our ability to be in healthy and loving relationships. They talk about why it’s important for couples to take each other on, and Real shares his honest advice for how we can shift ourselves, our partners, and our collective culture toward more openness and compassion. Real’s new book, Us: Getting Past You & Me to Build a More Loving Relationship, is out today. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kourtney Kardashian joins GP to talk about what shaped her life before she and her family ever appeared on television. They discuss blended family dynamics, what Kardashian turns to her husband Travis Barker for, the one thing she regrets being filmed, and how she and GP feel about the comparisons that have been made between goop and poosh. P.S. If you haven’t heard, the pair also teamed up to create a limited-edition candle—and it’s called This Smells Like My Pooshy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The last eight years I shifted into another gear,” says Cameron Diaz. “I went in and did some really deep, personal healing.” In this conversation between two friends, GP and Diaz talk about the mechanisms they use for self-protection, why aging is a mindset, and how they’re approaching their fifties together. Diaz explains why she’s given herself permission to honor her instincts and how GP finally convinced her to be a mother. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly McDaniel is a licensed professional counselor and the author of Mother Hunger: How Adult Daughters Can Understand and Heal from Lost Nurturance. In this conversation, McDaniel joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about the experience of yearning for maternal love. McDaniel explains how this type of longing impacts our sense of self and other types of relationships as we become adults. “Depending on what we each did to earn our mother’s love—what we end up doing is duplicating that with friendships, in romantic partnerships, and sometimes at work,” says McDaniel. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, psychotherapists and collaborators Barry Michels (New York Times–bestselling coauthor of The Tools) and Kristan Sargeant guide us through exercises designed to help us connect with our shadow. The shadow, as they explain it, is an often maligned part of your personality that has the potential to change your life in unexpected ways. “You can have intimacy with a part of yourself that you've been judging, abandoning, neglecting, denying,” says Sargeant. “That allows you to take on challenges and take risks and actualize on hunches and inclinations and dreams and desires that are percolating inside of you but you can't quite find the courage or clarity to pull the trigger on.” To go deeper, check out the week-long workshop Michels and Sargeant are hosting this July. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her good friend, actress and author Ali Wentworth. They chat about their daughters (they're best friends), and GP asks Wentworth for advice on how to cope when Apple leaves for college. Wentworth shares what has fueled her marriage over the years, and she explains how humor became her currency growing up and how she uses it during dark times. After you listen, preorder Wentworth's hilarious new book, Ali's Well that Ends Well, which comes out May 10. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alok Vaid-Menon is a writer, performer, public speaker, and the author of Beyond the Gender Binary, which examines gender fluidity and why the binary hurts us all. Vaid-Menon joins GP to discuss their journey as a nonbinary artist, how they’ve reclaimed their peace, and why it’s important to become familiar with your pain. “It’s actually through doing this intimate work of self-discovery and self-acceptance that we unlock a deep sense of community and interconnectivity. That’s what happened in my life,” says Vaid-Menon. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by a new friend, author Fanny Singer, for a special conversation (originally hosted by Book Passage) about Singer's book Always Home. They talk about what it was like to both grow up with famous mothers (Singer is the daughter of Alice Waters, the food icon and chef behind Chez Panisse). And Singer shares why she’s finally given herself permission to engage with her mother’s work. They chat about the connection between art and food, where they find beauty, and what cooking—and sharing—a meal means to them. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Edwina von Gal is a landscape designer and the founder of the Perfect Earth Project and Two Thirds for the Birds, two nonprofits raising awareness around the positive environmental impact of low-intervention lawns and bird-friendly landscapes. In this conversation, von Gal joins GP to discuss what we can do to take care of the ecosystems that we often overlook in our own backyard. “Nature is not really messy,” says von Gal. “Nature is highly complex. And the more you begin to read that complexity, that more you learn about it.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kimberly Johnson is a trauma educator, somatic guide, and the author of Call of the Wild: How We Heal Trauma, Awaken Our Own Power, and Use It For Good. She shares practices for understanding—and befriending—our nervous system. And she explains her approach to unpacking what our body is telling us, how sound can be used for healing, and why simple things (such as moving your body or connecting with others) can be therapeutic. “Our tendency is to believe that everything is a ‘me’ problem when it’s actually a ‘we’ problem,” says Johnson. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“For me growing up, the dark skinned women who had a spotlight or were celebrated had to be exceedingly, almost super humanely beautiful,” says culture and film critic Zeba Blay. “You couldn’t just be a pretty dark skinned Black girl.” In Carefree Black Girls, Blay explores the impact Black women have had on popular culture throughout history—and how pop culture has shaped Black womanhood. In this conversation, Blay and Erica Chidi talk about representation and colorism in Hollywood. Blay also explains what it means to be a carefree Black girl, where joy comes from, and why she decided to speak openly about mental health. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Sacred Rest, Saundra Dalton-Smith, MD, proposes the idea that there are seven different types of rest. Dalton-Smith says that sometimes the reason we can’t seem to replenish our energy is because we aren’t getting the kind of rest we need. In this episode she explains the characteristics of each and talks with GP about how to maintain healthy boundaries around work, relationships, and technology. “If you’re not intentionally filling back up, that’s probably a place of deficit,” says Dalton-Smith. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We're really indoctrinated with the idea that mental health issues are this genetically determined chemical imbalance,” says holistic psychiatrist Ellen Vora. “And that plays a role. I don't deny that, but it's not the whole story.” Vora’s new book, The Anatomy of Anxiety, explores holistic strategies for supporting our mental health, from nutrition to sleep to herbs and supplements. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about identifying what’s at the root of our anxiety, why it’s a whole-body condition, and the connection between menstrual cycles, hormones, and anxiety. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“So often I see women come into nonmonogamy better equipped to have difficult conversations,” says Jessica Fern, author of Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and Consensual Nonmonogamy. Fern is a psychotherapist who specializes in providing support for individuals, couples, and people in multiple-partner relationships. She joins Erica Chidi to discuss what makes nonmonogamy work. They talk about attachment theory, how it relates to nonmonogamous relationships, and how to develop a secure relationship—with yourself, for starters. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by award-winning actor, singer, director, composer, and playwright Billy Porter. In this intimate and vulnerable conversation, Porter tells pieces of his life story—the moment he challenged himself to live authentically, what’s inspired his art, therapies he’s found useful in a nonlinear path toward healing, roles that have been difficult and joyful. Please note this episode covers sexual abuse that may be triggering for some. Please take care while listening. For more from Porter, see his memoir Unprotected. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kathleen Nadeau is a clinical psychologist and the founder and director of the Chesapeake Center for ADHD Learning and Behavioral Health in Maryland. She joins GP today to discuss how ADHD is often overlooked in young women and girls and why she believes that the name, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, is a misnomer. Nadeau explains how symptoms can differ between boys and girls, why women aren’t diagnosed as early as men, and she shares her advice for how parents can support their children through ADHD and beyond.   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Erica Chidi is joined by spiritual teacher and #1 New York Times–bestselling author Gabby Bernstein. Bernstein’s new book, Happy Days, explores her journey navigating through trauma and the path that led to healing. In this conversation, Bernstein talks about what it means to feel safe in your body, how to build a framework for excavating your inner wisdom, and her tools for identifying and processing triggers. After you listen, preorder Bernstein’s book, which comes out on February 22. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Patrisse Cullors is an artist, abolitionist, author, and former executive director of Black Lives Matter Global Network, the movement she cofounded in 2013. In her book, An Abolitionist's Handbook: 12 Steps to Change Yourself and the World, Cullors outlines a compassionate roadmap for reform and building families, homes, and communities of care. She talks about moving past cancel and carceral culture, how to have courageous conversations, and how to approach abolition as an everyday practice. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Valerie Kanter, DMD, MS, is a third-generation dentist and a board-certified endodontist who specializes in biological and integrative dentistry. She joins GP (who is one of Kanter's patients) to discuss how our oral health can impact our overall health and well-being. Kanter explains her advanced approach to root canals, the technology she uses to diagnose and treat an infection, how to thoroughly clean your teeth at home, and what often gets overlooked in the mouth. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Khiara Bridges is a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, School of Law where she studies the intersection of race, class, and reproductive rights and justice. In this episode, Bridges joins Erica Chidi to explain the current state of reproductive laws in America, the impact of Roe v. Wade, and why it could be overturned by the Supreme Court. She talks about what this decision could mean for our constitutional rights, who it disproportionately impacts, and what else we lose if we lose the ability to protect people from forced pregnancies. As Bridges explains, this is about much more than abortion access. (To help raise awareness and support the ACLU Foundation’s Reproductive Freedom Project, we launched a new limited-edition candle—you can learn more about it and find more reproductive justice resources here.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Rubino is a mold remediator known for the unique way he helps people identify and remove mold from their homes. His book, The Mold Medic, explores the remediation process, including where to start if you suspect you may have a mold-related issue. Today, Rubino joins GP to talk about how the environment inside our homes can impact our health. He explains what makes a home susceptible to mold growth, why it’s often invisible or difficult to detect, and what we can do to improve the air quality of our homes. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robin Berzin, MD, is the founder and CEO of the functional medicine practice Parsley Health and the author of State Change. In her book, Berzin maps out a program for optimizing health. She explores five key factors—from nutrition to exercise and sleep—that impact our mental health, immunity, and overall energy. Today, she joins Erica Chidi to talk about the shifts that can help us feel our best and live with more vibrancy and ease. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We all have different parts of us that show up differently as we orient through our life,” says Amy Crawford, a therapist, educator, and trauma recovery coach. In this conversation, Crawford and GP discuss a therapy model called Internal Family Systems, which, in very simplified terms, is based on the idea that each of us is made up of many parts. By connecting and changing our relationship to those parts, we can begin to understand our true and authentic selves—and live more vibrant lives—says Crawford. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The more universal you try to make something, the less meaning it has,” says Stanley Tucci. “The more specific something is, the more universal it becomes.” GP catches up with Tucci to talk about threading together different passions and the transcendent places food can take us. Tucci talks about his family, his memoir Taste, and recovering from cancer while filming a food and travel series. This one made us laugh. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There's no real guidance about being intentional with identifying and processing our emotions because in a lot of cases, our parents don't know how to identify and process their own,” says Ashley C. Ford. Ford is the bestselling author of Somebody’s Daughter, a memoir about childhood, family, love, and forgiveness. Ford joins Erica Chidi to talk about growing up with fractured familial relationships and the complex and sometimes isolated nature of girlhood. She talks about how girls learn to betray themselves and how they are often conditioned to be “good” and silent. And Ford says that forgiveness means accepting what’s true instead of clinging to what we can’t—and don’t need to—control. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We have a societal image problem with sleep,” says scientist Matthew Walker, PhD. GP sat down with Walker at our In goop Health wellness summit to talk about why so many of us struggle with this essential pillar of our well-being. He discusses how sleep—and lack of it—impacts our health, our emotions, and our communities. Walker shares the scientific findings from his compelling research, and he leaves us with simple and practice advice for getting the best night of rest. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sara Nasserzadeh, PhD, is a social psychologist who sees both couples and individuals in her Los Angeles-based practice. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about what happens when you’re at the end of a relationship, how to navigate a divorce, and how to start or sustain a long-term partnership along the way. Nasserzadeh believes our definition of love needs to be flipped on its head. She shares a new way of thinking about and experiencing different kind of loves, which is all part of her emergent love model. Keep listening until the end for a practical exercise to help you move through the end of the year and evaluate what to take and what to leave behind. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I don’t think that anybody needs to get braver or better,” says Glennon Doyle. “I think we all just have to see who we actually are so that we can marvel at how strong and brave we already are.” The New York Times-bestselling author joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about her new book, Get Untamed. Today, they discuss different ways to release emotions, how to begin excavating our inner truths, and what we misunderstand about shame. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The relationship you have with yourself will always be the best relationship you could ever have in the world,” says Jay Shetty. The purpose coach and author of Think Like a Monk joined GP on stage at In goop Health. They talked about redirection, finding stillness in discomfort, and why knowing ourselves intimately gives us more grace to engage with others. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Intimacy coach Amina Peterson (one of the featured experts on our Netflix show Sex, Love & goop) wants us to acknowledge that sex is how we play as adults. And she wants us to expand what we think of as sex and play. Peterson shares practices that combine lightness and playfulness with admiration and adoration. These acts remind us that sacred is not synonymous with serious and somber. One example is mirror work, the practice of looking in the mirror and really seeing yourself. If that sounds intimidating, keep listening. And if you’re looking for more pleasure tools, see our new intimacy toolkit. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Darshana Avila—one of the featured experts in our new Netflix show, Sex, Love & goop—describes herself as an erotic wholeness coach. She believes that many of us have been conditioned to compartmentalize or fragment pieces of ourselves. And so often, it’s the sexual piece that is most siloed. Through her work, Avila helps us to look at and embrace the full spectrum of ourselves. Part of what makes her work so valuable is the space she creates for people to cultivate intimacy first with themselves. This, Avila says, is about knowing your own body, your heart, your trauma history, your attachment style, and what lights you up in a relationship. In this episode, GP and Avila talk about how you can begin exploring it all. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robin DiAngelo is a lecturer on issues of racial and social justice and the bestselling author of White Fragility. In her most recent book, Nice Racism, she explores why well-meaning White progressives perceive themselves as being past racism—and why this has devastating consequences. In today’s episode with Erica Chidi, the pair share strong and soft tools for engaging in difficult, beautiful, and potentially life-changing conversations like this one. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Samantha Boardman is a psychiatrist who focuses on optimism, building resilience, and mental well-being. Her new book, Everyday Vitality, explores how to find strength amid daily stressors. Today, she joins Erica Chidi to talk about the three keys to cultivating vitality, and she shares her tips for managing micro-stressors and what to do the next time you find yourself ruminating or stuck in a negative self-talk loop. Boardman also explains how connection, community, and deliberate action fosters meaning in our lives and why positive psychology isn’t just about thinking optimistically. “I’m actually a big believer in negative emotion. We have to use them and learn from them,” she says. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Every cell in our body is wired for pleasure,” says somatic sexologist and educator Jaiya. “And I believe pleasure is our birthright and it’s part of what brings us our liveliness and our connection and our intimacy with this world and with life.” In this special episode with GP, Jaiya—who is one of the experts on our new Netflix show, Sex, Love & goop—explains why she believes sexual incompatibility is a myth. Jaiya’s developed something called the erotic blueprint, which helps people discover their specific arousal language: sensual, kinky, sexual, energetic, or shapeshifter. They talk about why so many of us are disconnected from their bodies. Jaiya shares what it’s like to have an energetic orgasm—and the pleasure we’re capable of feeling when we’re willing to expand our definition of sex. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Healing is like my middle name,” says Alexandra Elle, author of After the Rain: Gentle Reminders of Healing, Courage, and Self-Care. Elle joins Erica Chidi to talk about what it means to nurture your inner child and find a way back to yourself again. They explore the trap of comparison and how to unearth the lessons and the beauty in life’s most difficult moments. “I don’t think we give ourselves enough room or space to reflect on the fact that we are still here, and in that is a celebration,” says Elle. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We all share the universal experience of having been born,” says design historian Amber Winick and co-author of Designing Motherhood: Things That Make and Break Our Births. In the book, Winick and co-author Michelle Fisher explore how designs, from the menstrual cup to the breast pump and baby blankets, have impacted and shaped the human reproductive experience over the last century. In this episode, Erica Chidi and the authors discuss how cultural gatekeepers impact the way we think of womanhood, who participates in conversations about different forms of mothering, and how we value (and devalue) the feminine. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

They’re back: GP catches up with Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM and cohost of The goop Podcast. They reflect on some big takeaways they’ve had in the past year at work and at home, how they’re learning to pause and connect with themselves, the value of an orgasm, what they’re listening to, and other things they’re excited about right now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by Ella Bell Smith and Stella Nkomo, coauthors of Our Separate Ways: Black and White Women and the Struggle for Professional Identity. Based on groundbreaking research, the book uncovers how race and gender shape our workplaces, careers, and relationships with our colleagues. Today, GP, Smith, and Nkomo discuss their recently updated book and how our understanding of race, gender, class, and power has changed—and stalled—over the last twenty years. The authors share what makes them hopeful today. And they explain their approach to engaging in complex conversations and executing structural and cultural shifts that have the power to rebuild our workplaces and communities. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James Gordon is a psychiatrist, the founder and director of the Center for Mind-Body Medicine, and author ofThe Transformation. He has a simple meditation technique called soft-belly breathing that we frequently return to for releasing stress and grounding in the present moment. In this special workshop, Gordon explains how and why his technique works, and you’ll get to try it for yourself.   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Erica Chidi is joined by sex expert and psychotherapist Esther Perel. They talk about Perel’s new game, Where Should We Begin, which is a deck of cards she designed to help people start meaningful conversations with each other. Perel shares why playfulness is important to cultivate as adults and how our stories can recharge and connect us. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“If I saw the vulnerability of other people, it almost canceled out the ways that they could be harmful to me,” says Melissa Febos, author of Girlhood. Today, she joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about the journey through adolescence into adulthood and its lasting impact on who we are and how we see the world. Febos shares how she learned to move past shame, and they talk about the narratives women receive about pleasure, consent, intimacy, and exploration. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by entrepreneur and cryptocurrency expert Sophie Wiberg Holm (who has been tutoring GP for a bit). Holm is a co-founder at Address Capital, a digital assets investment firm, and the host of I Also Want Money, a podcast that explores women’s relationship to money and ways to democratize wealth. Today, they discuss the rapidly changing landscape of digital currency, how NFTs work, and the long-term upsides of investing in cryptocurrency. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Elinor Cleghorn is a writer, researcher, and author of the book, Unwell Women. Today, Cleghorn and cohost Erica Chidi explore the misdiagnosis and mistreatment of women’s health issues throughout history, including Cleghorn’s own experience with chronic illness. Her symptoms were dismissed for many years before she was diagnosed with lupus, which prompted her to take a deeper look at the ways medicine has failed women and what a more just and effective system might look like.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s been a while. As requested, GP returns to do a lightning round of AMA, where she answers a handful of listener-submitted questions. How would those close to you describe you? What are you least confident about? Dating advice? Favorite concert? And more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There’s a lot of complexity that we tend to overlook about the power of our voice, says John Colapinto. Colapinto is a journalist and the author of This Is the Voice, which explores the biology of human speech, spanning from how babies learn to make sounds to the relatively recent rise of vocal fry. Today, he joins co-host Erica Chidi to talk about the vocal injury that inspired him to find out what we learn from each other and society through our voice alone.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with Alicia Keys to talk about her relationships, motherhood as a multihyphenate artist, where creativity comes from, and how to respect our imperfections and flaws. “I don’t like the word ‘perfect’,” says Keys. “It connects us a little bit more when we’re able to share our mistakes or when you’re able to hear something that’s not exactly perfect.” They also discuss the launch of Keys Soulcare, her lifestyle beauty brand, and she shares her approach to incorporating rituals and moments of stillness into our everyday routines. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alua Arthur is a death doula and the founder of Going with Grace, an end-of-life planning and death doula training organization. Arthur, who was previously an attorney, has helped thousands of people explore and move through the end-of-life process. Today, she joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about the beauty and satisfaction that comes with making space for both grief and joy. They discuss the differences between a good and ideal death, getting comfortable with what’s dying and dead in our daily life, practical ways to prepare for death (which Arthur manages to make exciting), natural burials, and celebrating our most human experiences. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tracy Clark-Flory is a senior staff writer at Jezebel and author of Want Me: A Sex Writer’s Journey Into the Heart of Desire. Her book explores the messages we receive from society about sex, intimacy, and pleasure and how this shapes our sexual lives and identities. She explains how sexual empowerment has been watered down and twisted into an individualistic approach and why it’s critical to think of the larger cultural and collective context. Today, she also talks about orgasms, porn, reckoning feminist values with sexual fantasies, and how sharing our experiences can be transformational and help us broaden the conversation around sex and our bodies.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“What’s great about great players is their mind,” says Venus Williams. GP chatted with Williams, who was in Paris on the heels of the French Open. They talk about Williams’ perspective on competition, where her drive comes from, and what drew her to her many ventures (which include an interior design firm, lifestyle and activewear brand, personal care products, and a plant-based protein company). Williams also shares stories about her childhood, what it was like growing up with four sisters, and the values that her parents instilled in her at a young age. The tail end of the conversation is about what Williams hopes to do now—and next. “I’ve always just been a person who’s happy where I am,” says Williams. “Even when you’re looking forward to the future, what about enjoying your now?” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I find it so confounding when leaders are uninterested in having their people’s experiences in the work—because how boring is that?” asks Bozoma Saint John, global chief marketing officer at Netflix. In this conversation with GP, Saint John shares some of her own extraordinary life story, why she believes that everyone has a powerful story within them, and how you can recognize the value of yours. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cohost Erica Chidi is joined by Tara Brach, a clinical psychologist, spiritual meditation teacher, and author. Brach’s new book, Trusting the Gold: Uncovering Your Natural Goodness, explores the fundamental value of connection and how to recognize the value in ourselves. Today, they discuss how to deepen our sense of compassion as we move through difficult times. They talk about interconnectedness, how to cultivate a sustainable meditation practice, and why seeing the good in others doesn’t mean ignoring the reality of our lived experiences. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taz Bhatia, MD, is a board-certified integrative medicine physician, author, and the founder of the functional medicine practice, CentreSpringMD. She helps patients navigate their health journey by drawing from different systems of medicine, including Ayurveda and traditional Chinese medicine. Today, she joins GP to talk about perimenopause and menopause. They talk through what happens when our body begins perimenopause, the factors that influence our hormones, and what we can do to support our body while navigating—and enjoying—these stages of life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cohost Erica Chidi is joined by the coauthors of Data Feminism: Catherine D’Ignazio (an assistant professor of urban science and planning at MIT) and Lauren F. Klein (an associate professor of English and quantitative theory and methods at Emory University). They explore the limits and uses of data, how data can reinforce and challenge systems of power, and how bad or missing data can hurt women. “We need to be assuming that these structural forces of oppression are going to show up in our data and our databases in the same ways that they show up in our policies and our institutions,” says D’Ignazio. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emeran Mayer, MD, PhD, is a gastroenterologist, a neuroscientist, and an author. At UCLA, he serves as the executive director of the G. Oppenheimer Center for Neurobiology of Stress and Resilience and as the codirector of the Digestive Diseases Research Center. He has spent over forty years studying the interactions between the brain and the gut and the rest of the body. Today, he shares the most significant research and actionable tips from his new book, The Gut-Immune Connection. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Social inequity is probably the biggest driver of health,” says Lindo Bacon, PhD, author of Health at Every Size, Body Respect, and Radical Belonging. “And if we don’t address the social determinants of health, then we end up blaming the individuals and putting the onus on them when that’s so false and it’s shaming of people.” Bacon is a nutritionist, researcher, and an intersectional body liberation advocate. Today, Bacon joins co-host Erica Chidi to examine the relationship between health and weight, how healthcare practitioners can move beyond weight loss as a solution, and why radical belonging, equity, and connection are matters of personal and public health. “Self-love is a beautiful thing, but no matter how much you love yourself, when you go into a culture that doesn’t treat you well, it’s going to be hard to feel good about yourself,” says Lindo. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Carl Hart, PhD, is the psychology department chair at Columbia University and the author of Drug Use for Grown-Ups. In his book, Hart makes the case for the legalization and regulation of all drugs, drawing on decades of scientific research, history, and his own experiences. Today, he joins co-host Erica Chidi to share his approach—which may surprise and challenge you. They discuss the narratives that have shaped public thinking and why it’s difficult to talk about drug use. Hart also shares how his own perspective shifted when he was studying the effects of drug use on the brain and why he believes decriminalization is only the first step toward a more hospitable society.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Psychologist and bestselling author Edith Eger’s book, The Gift: 12 Lessons to Save Your Life, explores the power of self-renewal and how to free yourself from thoughts and behaviors that might be imprisoning you. Today, she shares her own story of surviving the Holocaust and finding a path toward healing and forgiveness. GP and Eger discuss how to acknowledge and process anger, build resilience, and fall in love with yourself. Eger also describes her approach to revisiting the past and how she remains hopeful in the present. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Astrology can be a practical tool, says Chani Nicholas, astrologer and author of You Were Born for This. “Most of our spiritual life is lived out through very practical actions.” In this conversation, Nicholas explores the birth chart of our new cohost, Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM. And more broadly, Nicholas shares advice for anyone navigating a challenging transit period or in need of patience during a long cycle. Nicholas also explains why social justice and activism is important to her work: “How could I talk about a system of wisdom or knowledge that talks about humans and our experience here on earth without also addressing systemic inequalities?” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by her friend Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM, and probably one of the first subscribers to goop back in 2008. They talk about the ways they’ve intersected and aligned over the years, how Chidi’s work as a doula has evolved, and the next iteration of her digital education platform. They talk about racism in healthcare, how to move forward through discomfort, the beauty to be found in liminal spaces, and why care and education are necessary components of health. Plus, they reveal a secret they’ve been keeping for a while. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The cure for burnout is not self-care,” says Emily Nagoski. “It’s simply care. It’s all of us caring for each other. That means that when you think you need more grit, what you need is more help. When you think you need more discipline, you need more kindness.” In this special episode, we’re taking a break from our typical interview format to share an audio workshop led by Emily and her sister Amelia Nagoski. Their book, Burnout, explores how women experience stress and outlines strategies for freeing yourself from the stress cycle. For more from Emily Nagoski, check out the updated edition of her bestselling book Come As You Are—the audiobook is particularly great—and stay tuned for her new podcast, which will also cover sex and sexuality. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I don’t wake up and say, ‘I hope this is a great day, and I’m not going to get triggered,’” says psychotherapist Barry Michels, coauthor of Coming Alive and The Tools. “I say, ‘I’m going to get triggered. There’s no question.’” Last year, GP had a conversation with Michels that we keep returning to. In it, Michels shares his three-point plan for coping with negativity. He has tools for regulating your thoughts, preparing to get triggered, and processing your emotional wounds. He also has a way of helping people to find unexpected sources of inspiration and opportunities to be of service. Plus, you’ll get to meet GP’s shadow if you listen until the end. For more, head to The goop Podcast hub. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her longtime friend Laura Dern. They chat about being raised by double-artist parents and how their childhoods informed their acting careers, creative lives, and parenting styles. They talk about how they try to create space for their children to be vulnerable and explore their sense of self. And Dern shares why living in the gray—and finding comfort in the messy middle—has become so important to her. “That is life,” says Dern. “And there's something incredibly tender, celebratory, and vital about living in the gray.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Many of us romanticize our past selves, says actress, producer, and activist Gabrielle Union. “If you don't do an excavation of how you got to where you are, you will continue to live in the romanticized version of who you were and you won't be able to let go.” In this conversation, GP and Union explore past and future selves, parenting within blended families, healing from deep wounds, menopause misconceptions, and small pleasures. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by Harvard-trained sociologist and bestselling author Martha Beck. Beck’s new book, The Way of Integrity, explores what happens when we’re living in alignment with our true nature and how we become disconnected from it. She and GP talk about the ways we sublimate our own truths to be accepted by our circles—the little lies we tell to keep the peace or when we smile through discomfort—and why society is often threatened by people living in integrity. They also discuss how we can begin to access to our inner truth and why Beck decided to try not lying for an entire year. (By the way, she is now going on five years.) After you listen, preorder Beck’s extraordinary book, which comes out April 13.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with model, actress, entrepreneur, and activist Cara Delevingne. They start with Delevingne’s experience working in a high-pressure industry at young age and how she learned to break free from other people’s expectations. “You're put in a box or told to be a certain way,” Delevingne says. “And I hated it because it wasn’t a shape that I fit into.” They talk about how Delevingne approaches imposter syndrome, being a role model in the LGBTQIA community, and her hopes for anyone following in her footsteps. She also gives a preview of the five-day workout series she’s kicking off on goop’s YouTube channel and the scoop on Lora DiCarlo, the sex-tech brand she co-owns and is shaping as creative advisor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The smarter you are, often the worse you are at rethinking because you can use your intelligence to contort the truth into what you want to hear and what you want to believe,” says organizational psychologist and beloved Wharton professor Adam Grant. After reading his new book, Think Again, GP spoke with Grant about applying his research and wisdom to nearly every facet of life, from our careers to our most intimate relationships. Why do people generally fear being wrong? Grant says that we live in a world that celebrates certainty and mistakes confidence for competence. He explains the trap of letting our ideas become our identities, and how we can find common ground with one another while navigating charged topics. You’ll also find out why Grant is a recovering logic bully. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined today by an actress, producer, and director whose work she’s admired for many years, Robin Wright. Wright has just released her feature directorial debut, Land (which she also stars in), about a woman suffering immeasurable loss who retreats to an abandoned cabin in the Rockies to find a new way to heal. Today, they talk about making career pivots, executing an artistic vision, and betting on yourself. They also discuss how we heal from trauma and why Wright felt called to make a movie about human kindness. “When you are faced with adversity,” says Wright, “it’s other humans that help pull us through and give us faith to live.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her friend and functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC. Cole is the author of the new book Intuitive Fasting: The Flexible Four-Week Intermittent Fasting Plan to Recharge Your Metabolism and Renew Your Health. GP has been following Cole’s protocol this past month, and he joins her today to talk about her experience and how she’s been feeling since she started (spoiler: never better). They also talk through the tenets of intermittent fasting, what it means to be metabolically inflexible, and how quickly a damaged gut can rebound.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“When something bad is happening, we tend to focus on that problem really narrowly,” says psychologist Ethan Kross. “But if you lose the ability to step back and see the bigger picture, that's when it can become problematic.” Kross explains how negative chatter can impact our lives and how our ability to introspect can better serve us. He also walks GP through his tools to soothe our inner voice when we find ourselves ruminating. “Negative emotions like anger, sadness, anxiety—they're good for us in small doses,” says Kross. “When they become bad is when we bathe in them.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Sometimes the greatest strength comes from holding course when there aren’t answers, when there isn’t the best outcome around the corner,” says Kristine Gedroic, MD. Gedroic is a Harvard graduate, a fellow of the American Board of Family Medicine, and the author of A Nation of Unwell: What Went Wrong?. She’s spent the past decade helping thousands of patients heal from chronic illnesses. She’s the kind of doctor people turn to when they feel like they’ve already tried everything. She joins host Gwyneth Paltrow today to talk about her journey to integrative medicine (which began with her own health scare), how to optimize our body’s own detoxification pathways, and the key foods and herbal remedies that she regularly leans on. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There’s no such thing as a perfect harmony with nature,” says John Chester, the farmer and filmmaker behind The Biggest Little Farm. “There’s a comfortable level of disharmony. There is purposefulness in this disharmony.” Chester and his wife, Molly, founded a regenerative biodynamic farm (Apricot Lane Farm) that became famous through their stunning documentary. He joins GP today to talk about what he’s learned over the last decade being in deep relationship with the ecosystem of his land and how he and Molly have reframed their many roadblocks into opportunities (and found patience when their end goal was nowhere in sight). He and GP also talk about how soil health impacts the quality of our diets, things to look for on a food label, and his hopes for the future of American farming. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“When you have someone in your life who is experiencing illness, especially as a young person, it can be so impossible to bear witness to that,” says author Katherine E. Standefer. “Because then you are confronted with your own lack of control.” Standefer’s debut memoir, Lightning Flowers: My Journey to Uncover the Cost of Saving a Life, is stunning. Today, she joins host Elise Loehnen to tell the story of the rare diagnosis that led her on a mission deep into our fractured medical system. She shares what it was like to sit with vulnerability, what she learned from the avoidant tendencies of many of her doctors, and how she began to make sense of her complicated relationship with the medical advancements that were meant to save her. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“When people ask me about the biggest issues in mental health, I say: Stigma is problems one, two, and three,” says psychiatrist Nina Vasan, MD. In addition to seeing patients in her private practice, Vasan is the chief medical officer at the mental health company Real and the executive director of the Stanford Lab for Mental Health Innovation. She joins GP today to talk about the long-tail mental health impacts of disasters and how trauma sometimes strengthens one’s resiliency. They talk about why addressing mental health can—and should—be part of our daily life. And Vasan shares coping strategies for different and persistent stressors, including ways that managers can be more mindful of their employees’ needs. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Daniel Lieberman is a professor of human evolutionary biology at Harvard University and the author of the new book Exercised: Why Something We Never Evolved to Do Is Healthy and Rewarding. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to break down the history and science behind why so many of us have trouble exercising even though we know it’s healthy for us. For one thing, Lieberman says, the pull to not exercise is a basic human instinct, which, if you ask us, is validating. They also chat through why there is no universal prescription when it comes to workout routines. But, he says, a good first step is taking stock of what you’re trying to achieve and then figuring out what you enjoy doing. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re kicking off 2021 with a different kind of episode. Today, instead of being joined by a guest, GP is doing a lightning round of AMA, where she answers a handful of listener-submitted questions. True to form, your questions ran the gamut: what her perfect night in looks like, which wellness habit never caught on for her, advice for moms launching new businesses, and more. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Celeste Headlee’s book—Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving—she examines our fractured relationships to work. Why do we use productivity as a measure of self-worth? Where does our obsession with efficiency come from? In this episode, she shares strategies for maintaining healthy boundaries around work and play and for developing more transparency between managers and employees. She also sells us on taking time off: “When someone takes all their vacation days, they actually end up being more productive, more effective, less error-prone, and more creative than someone who doesn’t.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Resmaa Menakem is a trauma specialist and the New York Times–bestselling author of My Grandmother’s Hands, which examines how racial trauma is deeply embedded in the body. He joins Elise Loehnen today to discuss his work as a somatic healer, what he believes will happen nine generations from now, and why it’s not possible to “think” your way out of White supremacy. “To develop an individual response to a communal horror is inadequate,” he says. “Niceness is inadequate.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Otto Yang, MD, an infectious disease researcher at UCLA, is leading a global clinical trial on COVID-19 sponsored by the NIH. GP, who had COVID-19 in early March, is a part of the study and has gotten to know Yang’s work over the past several months. Today, they talk about the long-tail symptoms of the virus, what scientists have learned about antibodies and immunity, and what is still unknown. Yang answers questions about the vaccine and what we can expect to happen next year. He also shares, from the perspective of a scientist, how he processes fear around this virus. His biggest learning in the last year? It involves the surprising resilience of the human spirit. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I didn’t want to just write about loss,” says religion scholar Elaine Pagels. “I wanted to write about coming back from it and finding you can still have joy and a wonderful life. Because for me, that was a surprise.” Pagels is a bestselling author and the Harrington Spear Paine Professor of Religion at Princeton University. Today, she joins host Elise Loehnen to discuss her books Why Religion? and The Gnostic Gospels and the journey that led her to writing them. They talk about how religious traditions can shape how we understand ourselves, whether Pagels thinks there’s such a thing as sin, and why she considers herself more of an explorer than a believer. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her friend Pharrell Williams and, no surprise, the multihyphenate artist has a lot of ground to cover. They talk about his parenting philosophy and how its shifted during the pandemic. They talk about his creative process and being a pluralist in a world that wants everyone to pick a lane. They discuss the Black Lives Matter movement and his dreams for the future: “I love my nation because of its progression, but I’m really in love with its untapped potential,” he says. And he shares the story behind the accelerator he’s just launched, Black Ambition, which invests in Black and Latinx students and entrepreneurs, providing not only capital to get their ideas off the ground but hands-on mentorship, as well. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“They could have gone in one of two directions,” says author Lacy Crawford. “Either start asking real questions and listening for honest answers and face the reckoning of what these boys had done to me. Or go the other direction and bury the girl. And that’s what they did: They buried the girl.” In Crawford’s memoir, Notes on a Silencing, she shares the story of the assault she suffered at boarding school when she was fifteen years old and the subsequent attempts to silence her. Today she joins host Elise Loehnen to talk about misplaced shame, our perception of bravery, addressing a destructive culture, and how her definition of healing has shifted with time. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mellody Hayes, MD, is an anesthesiologist, a healer, a spiritual teacher, and a powerful voice in the psychedelic movement. Though Hayes has worked in traditional medicine for her whole career, she says her spiritual life greatly informs how she approaches human healing—and she keeps up with medical journals and Pema Chödrön in equal measure. Today, she joins host Elise Loehnen to talk about the societal stresses that contribute to illness, how psychedelic medicine could help heal intergenerational trauma, and why love is at the center of everything she does. “When you try and shame someone into correction, you get obedience, but you haven’t won their participation,” she says. “How do we shift people? Believe it or not: We love them more; we love them harder.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Katherine May’s newest book, Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times, she explores how we relate to the painful periods in our lives—and what we can gain from normalizing the need to rest and tend to our wounds. In her conversation with host Elise Loehnen, May says that one reason many of us feel ashamed about our dark periods is because we’re taught to look down on other people’s misfortunes. This in turn makes it difficult to respect our own pain. May shares what changed for her when she allowed herself to see sadness as a need and not something to run from. For example, it helped her stop feeling addicted to productivity and busyness and begin to let go of the need to control everything. “We have got to stop feeling responsible for controlling our lives because that attempt is devastating us,” she says. “And it’s a lie—we just cannot do it.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by Ed Catmull, cofounder of Pixar, former president of Walt Disney Animation Studios, and author of the New York Times–bestselling book Creativity, Inc. They talk about what it takes to establish the kind of company culture Catmull is revered for. The first step, he says, is creating a space where people feel free to speak candidly, to be vulnerable, and to take risks. They talk about what can lead a team to feel disconnected from their creativity and how to help people cultivate inspiration again. And he shares some of his insights on effective leadership: “One of the rules for the powerful people is they’re supposed to shut the hell up for the first ten or fifteen minutes,” says Catmull. “If a powerful person speaks, they set the tone for the meeting. And you’re much more effective if you enter a discussion rather than set the tone.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Weinfurt, PhD, is the vice chair for research in the Department of Population Health Sciences at Duke University School of Medicine. His work measures sexual function and satisfaction and how sexual well-being can be impacted by illness and other changes in health throughout our lives. Weinfurt talks about why he believes doctors tend to avoid the subject of sex and how he and his colleagues hope to change this. He also talks about the role that intimacy plays in sexual wellness—i.e., holding hands, making eye contact, and simply touching. And he explains some of the psychology around our relationship to our sex lives, like why sex can be so important to some people but not to others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The Northern Cheyenne people have a saying: A nation is not defeated until the hearts of its women are on the ground,” says Lucy Rain Simpson, executive director of the National Indigenous Women’s Resource Center. “And that was a primary tactic. If you want to break a nation down, you purposefully try to make women no longer respected.” In her role, Simpson works to safeguard Native women and children. Today, she unpacks much of what is misunderstood about the rampant sexual violence on Native land, including that over 90 percent of the perpetrators are non-Indian. She explains the impact of federal mismanagement and complacency around these crimes and why assaults against women are particularly corrosive in Native culture. And she shares ways that we can begin to break the cycle of violence, as well as a vision of what justice would look like. “If we can come back to a place where women are sacred, that gives us the foundation for building everything else up,” she says. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The core of leadership should be care,” says psychiatrist Gianpiero Petriglieri, MD. “And then performance is a result of a system in which there is enough care.” Petriglieri is an associate professor of organizational behavior at INSEAD and an expert on leadership and learning in the workplace. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to talk about what is lost when we prize productivity above all else, why it’s important to give your team space to ask questions and be imaginative, why he thinks having vision isn’t an important quality in a good leader, and our growing tendency to intertwine our sense of self-worth with our performance at work: “Once you start working this way, where work becomes very personal, everything is existential. If you succeed, you are a success. If you fail, you see yourself as a failure.” He also shares insights about what the pandemic could teach us about productivity and how that could shape the way we do business in the future.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Isabel Wilkerson is a Pulitzer Prize–winning, number one New York Times–bestselling author. Her most recent book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, links the caste systems of America, India, and Nazi Germany. She examines how a caste system has shaped American history and the ways our lives are still defined by man-made hierarchies. In this conversation with host Elise Loehnen, Wilkerson explains the essential difference between racism and casteism and why these hierarchies negatively affect all groups. “We are, as a society, harmed by the inequities that may seem to be trained primarily on one group,” says Wilkerson. “But then these inequities spread and leach out beyond the boundaries of that seat.” The ripple effects, Wilkerson explains, include misguided policies that often impact everyone. And she shares what it takes to move beyond these artificial divisions. The first step is having a deep understanding of the history that shapes us: “If you don’t know the history, if you don’t know where you’ve been, then it’s hard to know how you got to where you are and how you can move forward.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our guest today is James Nestor, journalist and author of Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art, which explores the often overlooked and undervalued function of breathing and all the ways that breath is at the center of health—and potentially illness. Nestor spent a decade studying ancestral breathing techniques and New Age technology and diving deep into studies that have brought surprising information to light. For example, Nestor tells us about the Framingham Study, which has been going on for seventy years: “They found that the most accurate marker of health and longevity wasn’t genes or even cardiovascular health. It was lung capacity and respiratory health.” Nestor shares all that he’s learned about proper technique (breathing through your nose is key) and his advice for shifting your habits. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by two-time Olympic gold medalist, FIFA World Cup Champion, and New York Times–bestselling author Abby Wambach. Since retiring from her record-breaking soccer career, Wambach has become known for her work around equality and inclusion alongside her wife, activist and author Glennon Doyle. She’s also just published a young readers edition of her book Wolfpack, urging young people to break old rules and create their own path. Today, Wambach chats with GP about how to build a strong team, how to allow yourself to feel disappointed, how to get comfortable with competition and seeing others succeed, and how her son’s coming out helped Wambach heal some of her own childhood trauma. “My mom had fear for me, but I thought she was afraid of me,” says Wambach. “Those are very different things.” It’s clear why Wambach was captain of the Women’s National team for so many years—you get fired up listening to her speak. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The former CNN White House correspondent has become known as an independent news source and appreciated by followers for her cogent, insightful approach and for allowing people to draw their own conclusions—without all the added drama. For this special episode, Yellin joined Elise Loehnen on the afternoon of Wednesday, November 4, and talked through how she believes the next few weeks will play out. They also discuss why Yellin has never trusted exit polls, the state of TV news in this country, and our path forward as we reckon with how divided our nation remains. (For more, follow @JessicaYellin on Instagram. And see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Eli Finkel, PhD, is a psychology professor at Northwestern University and the author of the fascinating book The All-or-Nothing Marriage, which explores the surprising things that make marriages fulfilling and what can put them on the rocks. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to chat about how the definition of an ideal marriage has shifted over time, what he thinks of nonmonogamy, why he argues that there are some things you should not ask of your relationship, and whether it’s possible to maintain a happy union while also trying to become a fuller, more authentic version of yourself. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Journalist Rebecca Traister has written three books, including her most recent New York Times bestseller, Good and Mad, which explores how women’s anger has provoked political and social change over centuries. Traister joined host Elise Loehnen to talk through all she’s uncovered in her research and why our society continues to consider anger to be acceptable only for White men. “This is one of the strategic functions of discouraging the expression of anger in women and other people in the margins,” says Traister. “Because the communication of dissatisfaction is the building block for potential future organizing.” Her advice? Stay angry. Stay awake. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Writer and attorney Christie Tate had big reservations when a therapist first suggested she pursue group therapy. The idea of voluntarily sharing her secrets and vulnerabilities with a group of strangers was not appealing. It was terrifying. But she went. Now she’s been in group therapy for 19 years—and probably will be for the rest of her life. Tate wrote a book about her experience called Group: How One Therapist and a Circle of Strangers Saved My Life. In her chat with Elise Loehnen, they talk about Tate’s struggle with disordered eating, how her husband and children deal with having their private lives exposed, and how the process of healing and understanding ourselves typically takes a lifetime. “The more people tell true stories about the jagged line of recovery, that it’s not just a straight arrow shooting upward to nirvana,” says Tate, “the better understanding we can have of what healing looks like.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Hope isn’t an optimism that one day it will be okay,” says Austin Channing Brown. “Hope is what we owe to one another as human beings.” Brown is a media producer, a speaker, and the author of the New York Times bestseller I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness. In her racial justice and leadership work, Brown doesn’t chase hope; she lives it. Brown joined host Elise Loehnen to talk about how she anchors herself amid the stress and emotional toll of her work, and why for many Black women, the missteps of White women, in particular, can sting more. She also explains why it’s more helpful to be brave than it is to be nice—and how to show up with this in mind. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The work that I do helping people exit these groups, it isn’t about persuading them to leave,” says mental health counselor Steven Hassan. “It’s teaching them how the mind works, teaching them about social psychology and hypnosis, which helps them see whether or not they have been co-opted.” Hassan is a leading expert on mind control and hypnosis and the author of The Cult of Trump. For the past forty years, he’s drawn on his own experience as a former Moonie to help people step out of controlling groups, relationships, and cults. Today, he explains how well-adjusted people get wrapped up in authoritarian cults, why we’re all subject to mind control every day, and how mind control has shaped the current state of politics in the US. And he shares his insights on what to do about it. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian Muraresku—author of The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name—spent twelve years entrenched in connecting the dots between the use of mind-altering drugs and the foundation of Christianity as we know it today. Many of us are familiar with the holy wine present at ancient religious celebrations. But what was actually in that wine? Was it anything like the wine we drink today? Muraresku says the evidence suggests it was very different—that the wine was routinely mixed with other substances, from spices and perfumes to herbs, and fungi. For Muraresku, this begged the question: What was the intent of those who drank it? Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to share the wild journey this question led him on and what he discovered along the way about faith, science, and the rise of the church—including long-suppressed evidence of just how fundamental women were to the origin and survival of Christianity. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her friend Kate Hudson, and true to form, they cover a lot of ground. They talk about being girl moms, what it looks like to own your trauma, and how, at this stage in her life, Hudson creates sustaining relationships. “It’s not fun to work through the pain—it sucks. And it definitely feels like it’s easier to avoid it,” Hudson says. “But we know that the more you avoid it, the worse it festers.” They also chat about how she’s created authentic and successful brands (like Fabletics, and her new venture In Bloom), the best business advice she’s gotten, and why she bets on herself. And be sure to listen to the end to hear about Hudson’s best (and not-so-best) onscreen kisses. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“It’s the possibility of greater change that rejuvenates me,” says Michele Harper, MD. “That’s what makes it possible for me to keep going.” Harper is an emergency room physician who has worked as chief resident at Lincoln Hospital in the South Bronx and in the emergency department at the VA medical center in Philadelphia. She is also the author of The Beauty in Breaking. Today, she joins host Elise Loehnen to share how she manages the emotional strain of being witness to so much suffering, what she’s learned from her patients about healing, and why she sees her commitment to positive change as a form of meditation. “It is all so depleting—all of it,” she says. “But I’ve always turned my grief, my pain, my suffering into action.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Author Toni Jensen joined us for the September edition of goop Book Club to talk about her first memoir, Carry, which traces her Métis roots, her childhood in rural Iowa, her closest relationships, and the classrooms she’s inhabited around the country as a student and a teacher. In this conversation with Elise Loehnen, Jensen talks about making peace with childhood trauma, her complex relationship with gun culture, the staggering injustices forced on Indigenous women, the stereotypes that prevail, and the subtle and lasting ways that language shapes each of us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Laura Wasser is a family law expert, a divorce attorney, and the founder of It’s Over Easy, a platform that provides tools to help families navigating divorce. She joins host Elise Loehnen to talk about how people can prepare for the best and the worst in a relationship, whether or not she thinks prenups serve a partnership, if the years she’s spent in this field have changed her views on marriage, and how she’s remained family with her exes. Wasser also shares her tips on what to look for in an attorney, how to move on in the least expensive way (emotionally and financially), and topics to discuss with a partner when you’re just getting hitched. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Sheff is a journalist and the author of the number one New York Times–bestselling book Beautiful Boy. Sheff joins us to talk about an incredible man and the subject of his latest book, The Buddhist on Death Row: Jarvis Jay Masters’s childhood was marred by severe trauma that sent him down a path of violence and into San Quentin. In 1990, while in prison, Masters was set up for the murder of a guard, which landed him on death row. On the recommendation of a criminal investigator working on his case, Masters began to explore meditation. He was skeptical, and his life didn’t change overnight. But it did eventually change—dramatically. Today, on death row, Masters is a remarkable Buddhist thinker, engaging with some of the most renowned practitioners in the world and changing the way people approach both suffering and healing.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ambassador Susan Rice has had an impressive career in service and government as a diplomat, policy advisor, and public official. She served throughout the Clinton administration, becoming one of the nation’s youngest secretaries of state, and later, became one of President Obama’s most trusted advisors. After years of speaking on behalf of presidents and the country, Rice finally shares her incredible story, in her own words, in her book Tough Love—and today, in her conversation with GP. One of the most interesting parts of their chat is about managing division and learning to listen and understand others, starting at the dinner table (Rice’s son is deeply conservative). The pair also talk about why there’s a tendency to view women with a binary and reductive lens, the scaffolding that’s informed Rice’s diplomacy and negotiation skills, and the single through line that’s helped her grow. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Many people find it difficult to exercise self-compassion, in part because we fear that being tender with ourselves will make us lose our edge. But Kristin Neff, PhD—who wrote Self-Compassion and The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook and is steeped in the field’s research—says that couldn’t be further from the truth: “Here’s the thing with self-compassion—our goals are just as high. But when we fail to meet our goals, we’re more likely to pick ourselves up and try again.” Today, Neff explains the differences between self-esteem, self-love, and self-compassion and the distinctive ways these practices effect our daily lives. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Each of us, in our own infinite precious particularity, will be led to what’s to be done next in our own time and space,” says Cynthia Bourgeault. The modern-day mystic and Episcopal priest is the author of several brilliant books, including Eye of the Heart: A Spiritual Journey into the Imaginal Realm. Today, she joins us to discuss a question that comes forth for many of us at some point: Are we all just irrelevant specs? Does our life actually have meaning? According to Bourgeault, while humans are not the center of everything, our actions have profound influence on the well-being of the planet (and a system that extends beyond it). She says that a lack of consciousness has led to much of the mess we’re currently in, and she explains how we all play a particular role in amending the damage. She talks through how our fear of dying is problematic (and what a different approach to death could look like), what it truly means to live virtuously, and whether or not she’s hopeful for the future. (Spoiler: Mostly, she is.) (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jay Shetty, author of the new book Think Like a Monk, is in part known as a former monk. Now, he serves as a coach, helping people identify and live out their purpose. He joined GP to talk about why many of us have never really spent time by ourselves, with ourselves—and what can happen when we do. Shetty has a different way of thinking about compassion for self and compassion for others; and it involves not devaluing or belittling pain. He also has a clarifying way of looking at the fine line between compassion and victimhood (so that we don’t get stuck in victim consciousness) and distinguishing feelings (which can be fleeting and misleading) from emotions. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I grew up with this intense fear of failure,” says Cathy Park Hong. “And in retrospect, I can understand why my parents instilled that in me—because for them, there was no safety net.” Hong is a writer, a professor at Rutgers-Newark University, and the author of Minor Feelings: An Asian American Reckoning. It’s a book about family, identity, culture, and self-worth. Hong joins us today to talk about the parts of the Asian American experience that are often left out of the mainstream. She talks about how becoming a parent forced her to reckon with her own upbringing and the complicated nature of assimilation—both what it afforded her and what it stole from her. She asks: How do we go about the messy process of deciding which parts of our culture to pull forward to keep in our lives and which to put down? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There is so much hurt that doesn’t have to remain unhealed,” says Molly Howes, PhD. “A good apology can go the distance to lessen that pain.” Howes is a Harvard-trained clinical psychologist and the author of A Good Apology: Four Steps to Make Things Right. Many of us are bad at apologizing, which according to Howes, is not for lack of care, but because we may have a misunderstanding of what it takes to make both parties feel whole. Howes says a good apology requires listening rather than justifying, which is often easier said than done. Today, Howes walks us through the four steps of a good apology and explains how we can apply these steps personally in our own homes and more widely in our communities. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Most of the diseases that we experience are not inevitable,” says Bruce Lanphear, MD. “They’re preventable.” Lanphear is a clinician scientist at the Child & Family Research Institute, BC Children’s Hospital, and a professor in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver. He’s spent the majority of his career exploring how environmental factors like toxic chemicals, pollutants, and contaminants can impact our health. Today, he explains the challenges of proving causation, the ways industries dodge responsibility, and why health care policy and research funding often don’t reflect the needs and priorities of doctors and patients. (While there’s plenty of evidence showing that most diseases are preventable, the US spends only 4 percent of funding on upstream preventive measures.) Lanphear breaks down where we’re most vulnerable and what we can do about it. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We often view moments of serendipity, or happy accidents, as situations that we play no part in and can't control or influence. But author Christian Busch, PhD, believes that luck may not always be circumstantial—and that by training ourselves to see something in the unexpected, we can make those accidents more meaningful. Which is the subject of his book, The Serendipity Mindset: The Art and Science of Creating Good Luck. Busch is the director of the Global Economy Program at New York University’s Center for Global Affairs and also teaches at the London School of Economics. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to discuss how we can best exercise our serendipity muscle and whether or not extroverts have a leg up in the game. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You’ve probably been fed the myth that your life will generally follow a linear path, with maybe a midlife crisis and a few other upheavals thrown in along the way. But in reality, you’ve probably experienced more big transitions, or “lifequakes,” as author Bruce Feiler calls them. For his book Life Is in the Transitions, Feiler spent a year exploring how people move through these moments. What he learned is that although the changes can be unpredictable, there are patterns to be found in how we cope with them. And with the right tools, we can navigate these transitions with meaning, purpose, and skill. Feiler joins host Elise Loehnen to talk through his different strategies for surviving a massive life change and making the most of opportunities to grow. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gordon Neufeld is a developmental psychologist and the author of Hold On to Your Kids: Why Parents Need to Matter More Than Peers. In his forty-plus years studying child development, a few common threads have emerged. According to Neufeld, parents tend to be hyperfocused on socializing their children in order for them to be well liked and have plenty of friends. This good intention can cause children to become peer-attached—meaning they look to their peers instead of the adults in their lives for guidance, care, and stability. Having close peers is important, but the peer relationship shouldn’t be the most important one, says Neufeld. His work helps parents and caretakers maintain and strengthen relationships with their children, recognize when kids are pulling away, and reverse damage that’s already been done to the bond. His approach does not require us to do everything “right”—but it could shift the way we raise and relate to children for the better. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP talks with her friend Cameron Diaz about the best part of turning forty, what affects our capacity to be intimate, taking responsibility for who you are, and the launch of Avaline, Diaz’s organic wine line. Diaz explains why she pivoted away from her acting career, what happened after she decided to start over, and how she learned a surprising amount about herself in the early days of her relationship with her husband. “In my forties, I realized I need to be quicker to identify the things I shouldn’t be holding on to, and cut them loose,” says Diaz. The tail end of the conversation is about motherhood—and what Diaz most wants for her daughter. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the medical community, miraculous recoveries are typically dismissed as flukes and outliers. Because they can’t be explained within the constructs of typical modern care, they end up in the dustbin. But some doctors, like today’s guest Jeffrey Rediger, MD, believe that this is a grave mistake and that our insistence on clinging to old systems and beliefs leaves much lifesaving science out. Rediger, who is on the faculty at Harvard Medical School and is the director of McLean Hospital SE, has spent the past two decades studying verified cases of spontaneous remission, looking for unifying threads that might be repeatable for others with the same diagnosis. In his book, Cured: The Life Changing Science of Spontaneous Healing, he shares his beautiful insights and discoveries. He joins host Elise Loehnen to discuss the root cause of illness, how our environment sets the stage for healing, and the pillars associated with recovery and overall well-being—including nutrition, the immune system, stress responses, and the health of our identities. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tom Philpott is a veteran journalist, a former farmer, and the current food and agriculture correspondent for Mother Jones. Philpott has spent years researching how and why American agriculture has gone so disastrously wrong and all the ways our political and economic infrastructure exacerbated its downfall. But as grim as the situation is now, Philpott believes there is much to be hopeful about—including the many farmers and communities who are paving the way for change and laying the groundwork to avoid disaster. Philpott is the author of a new book called Perilous Bounty: The Looming Collapse of American Farming and How We Can Prevent It. He joins host Elise Loehnen today to talk about how this all got out of control and what we can do to begin to mend the damage. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dolly Chugh is a psychologist and professor at the Stern School of Business at NYU. She studies how—and why—most of us, however well-intended, are still prone to race and gender bias, as well as what she calls “bounded ethicality,” which are the systemic, unethical behaviors we engage in without awareness. For example, Chugh believes that being an ally isn’t about being a “good” person—and that our singular focus on goodness is a big part of the problem. Instead, she says, we should be constantly striving to be good-ish, i.e. someone who is always growing—that involves messing up, owning the mistake, learning from it, and trying again. Chugh brilliantly tackles this topic in her book The Person You Were Meant to Be. Today, she explains to host Elise Loehnen what we can and must do about it. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mark Wolynn is the director of the Family Constellation Institute in San Francisco. The focus of his work is healing trauma. Wolynn believes that the traumas of our parents, grandparents, and even great grandparents can live on in us—particularly if they are unresolved. If you’re triggered by something and can’t figure out why, Wolynn says the answer might lie in your family history. He wrote a book about it, called It Didn’t Start with You. Today, Wolynn talks with host Elise Loehnen about the tools he uses to help people get to the root of difficult or bewildering issues and his strategies for freeing yourself from harmful patterns. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Wallace-Wells is a lifelong New Yorker. He is not a lifelong environmentalist—“at all,” he says. He came of age in the ’90s, drank a lot of “that development, globalization, neoliberal Kool-Aid and really felt the world was getting better and richer.” But learning more about climate change scrambled a lot of his assumptions about the world and our place in it. Today, Wallace-Wells is a columnist and deputy editor at New York magazine and the author of the critically acclaimed number one New York Times bestseller, The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming. In this conversation with Elise Loehnen, he explains what lies ahead, what policies should be changed, what possible solutions and technologies give him reason to feel optimistic, and what we need to learn from COVID-19 in order to equip ourselves to respond to pandemics of varying natures. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“That taboo dark energy around our sexuality can be a place of great expansion,” says somatic sexologist andeducator Jaiya, who has spent the last two decades studying what turns people on. Jaiya developed something called the Erotic Blueprint, an arousal map that reveals your specific erotic language—sensual, sexual, kinky, energetic, or shapeshifter. She explains how we can discover our own language, better understand a partner’s language, and use this road map to embrace and fulfill our desires. (Take Jaiya's Erotic Blueprint quiz here.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“When you push people to be colorblind, not only are you pushing them to not see color; you’re pushing them to not see the harm that comes from color,” says Jennifer Eberhardt, PhD. Eberhardt is a social psychologist, a Stanford professor, and the author of Biased, a thoroughly researched, compelling, and comprehensive book on uncovering prejudice and addressing it. Everyone is affected by racial bias, says Eberhardt, but you can learn to override it. Today, she shares critical facts, tools, and strategies that anyone can (and should) use to be part of a meaningful solution. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The urge to absolve oneself is a kind of low-level thing where we’re trying to get away from our own complicity,” says psychiatrist Mark Epstein, MD. Epstein is the author of Advice Not Given, and his work lies at the intersection of Buddhism and psychotherapy. Today, he’s teaching us about what motivates people and what happens when we let guilt guide our decision-making. He also teaches us about coping with feelings of isolation, confronting complicity, working our way back to the present when our mind wanders, and transmuting anger and rage into compassion. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Whatever is emerging, we want to help people explore it and experience it,” says Rick Doblin. GP interviewed the founder and executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) about the impact MDMA-assisted psychotherapy may have on PTSD, eating disorders, alcoholism, and other forms of trauma. Doblin explains the landscape of psychedelic research, how it’s changed, and how close we may be to making MDMA-assisted psychotherapy a legal prescription treatment for PTSD. They also talk about what happens during an MDMA therapy session; how people store, process, and release memories; and what connects one person to another and to the world. Go to MAPS to learn more and to join GP in donating to a fund that supports BIPOC PTSD patients going through treatment and BIPOC therapists going through MAPS training. (And a PSA in case you’re new here: The legal status of psychedelics depends on where you use them. In the US, recreational use is illegal. If psychedelics are taken without careful attention to dose, set [mindset], and setting [environment], it’s possible for things to go wrong. As always, consult your doctor before beginning any protocol.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The more logical you are in your approach to your sleep, the more you’re going to screw it up,” says sleep specialist Rafael Pelayo, MD. Pelayo is a clinical professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Stanford Center for Sleep Sciences and Medicine and the author of the forthcoming book How to Sleep, which will be published in December 2020. Today, Pelayo answers our most pressing sleep questions: What’s really happening when we’re dreaming? Why do we sleep? Can we catch up on sleep? How much sleep do kids need? What causes sleep to become dysfunctional or disordered? How much are you affected by the way your partner sleeps? What can we do to feel rested when we wake up? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“If you get to some of the fundamental issues that are causing the unrest, you don’t need these Band-Aids,” says Julie Holland, a psychiatrist who specializes in psychopharmacology. Holland is the author of Weekends at Bellevue, Moody Bitches, and most recently, Good Chemistry. Today, she’s explaining the science of connection—with self, with partners, with family, with the cosmos. Holland has researched and studied what good chemistry looks like in the body and how someone can develop it using tools beyond prescription medications. She shares techniques and practices that support the production of oxytocin (a neurotransmitter and hormone that’s key for connection) and allow us to operate from the parasympathetic state, which is conducive to healing and connecting. And she breaks down profound lessons from psychedelic experiences and research that can inform and potentially revolutionize the way we relate to one another. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We have all these mini minds that interact all the time,” says Richard Schwartz, PhD, the founder of the Internal Family Systems Institute. Schwartz believes that different subpersonalities—which he calls parts—make up the capital-S Self. In his audiobook Greater Than the Sum of Our Parts, Schwartz explains how traumas (minor or major) can cause certain parts to deviate from their natural state. He also explains why people cast different parts of themselves into certain roles, which he identifies as managers, firefighters, and exiles. For example, a manager might be the inner critic that is trying to keep you safe. An impulsive, reactive firefighter comes in to distract you from the flames of emotion. And the exile is shrouded in shame. The bulk of Schwartz’s work focuses on integrating these disparate parts and healing them—on an individual and a collective level. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I like a lot of different topics, and I like to be around a lot of different types of people,” says Arlan Hamilton. “And that keeps me flexible.” Hamilton is the author of It’s About Damn Time and the founder of Backstage Capital, a venture capital seed fund that invests in underrepresented founders. She built the company from the ground up—while experiencing homelessness. In this conversation with host Elise Loehnen, Hamilton shares some incredible lessons from her personal and professional lives. She talks about the nuances of identity, the importance of learning to adapt (sometimes midsentence), and how power, influence, capital, and resources are being restructured—and what the future might look like. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Failure can be the best teacher if you know how to approach it properly,” says Ozan Varol, a former rocket scientist turned law professor. In his book Think Like a Rocket Scientist, Varol shows the benefit of approaching problems with a beginner’s mindset. He explains why it’s dangerous to conflate beliefs with identity and why it’s incredibly productive to ask yourself: What are my assumptions? His work is an unexpected and compelling road map for challenging the status quo, cultivating curiosity (which people lose over time), solving problems, and creating change. (For more, subscribe to Varol’s weekly newsletter. He is also offering bonus content to listeners who purchase a copy of his book.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Conventional medicine failed me. It is my mission to not have it fail other people as well,” says Amy Myers, MD. The New York Times–bestselling author of The Autoimmune Solution and The Thyroid Connection sat down with Elise Loehnen to talk about autoimmunity. Seventy-five percent of people with autoimmunity are women, explains Myers, and she believes that autoimmunity is spiking in children. She suggests manageable ways to look at and adjust diets to meet your personal health needs and food sensitivities. And she shares her own health journey—including a mold scare—and many tools for cleaning up home environments and removing potentially toxic or harmful factors (like mold) that could impact your health. Myers empowers us to take back our health and encourages us to be aggressive advocates for our own healing: “Do not give up.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“You’re never fully cooked,” says Chelsea Handler. GP catches up with her friend about her approach to activism, comedy, and self-discovery—which she writes about her in latest New York Times–bestselling book, Life Will Be the Death of Me. They start by talking about White privilege and why and how Handler set out to first dismantle it in her life. “How do you get okay with making yourself feel uncomfortable?” asks Handler. How do you allow your perspective to shift consistently, avoid getting stuck in your opinions, resist binary thinking? How do we have conversations without getting angry? In this vulnerable and still hilarious conversation, Handler reframes self-awareness—the greater purpose of becoming more self-aware is a collective benefit, not individual. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ibram X. Kendi—the number one New York Times–bestselling author of How to Be an Antiracist, Stamped from the Beginning, and Antiracist Baby—is a historian of change. This summer, he’s moving to a new academic post at Boston University, where he’ll become the founding director of the Boston University Center for Antiracist Research. In this conversation with Elise Loehnen, Kendi talks through the historical myths, misconceptions, and dangerous oversimplifications that have contributed to current racist policies and systems. He debunks (with historical proof) the idea that we can’t create systemic change without overwhelming personal change. He reframes the differences between segregationist, assimilationist, and anti-racist thinking: Ensuring that there is resource equity across different spaces and that spaces are not segregated does not mean that spaces should be homogenized. In a country that is roughly 60 percent White people, Kendi pinpoints why it’s critical that we reject standardization and make room for more culture. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There is a system that is a sustainable new business model in which health becomes the determinant,” says Jeffrey Bland, PhD. “Not just production per unit acre.” Bland, who is known as the father of functional medicine, joins host Elise Loehnen for a wide-ranging conversation on how long-defended systems (in medicine and elsewhere) have failed and how we can make them work and make them just. He also explains why we’re not hardwired and how our environment influences the way our genes are expressed. He talks about the importance of regenerative agriculture (and an interesting plant, named Himalayan Tartary buckwheat). Bland calls himself an optimist; he reminds us that we have the power to throw out old models and create new, better ones: “Miracles are out there, and they can be duplicated if we ask the right questions.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“You can’t grow up Black in America and not feel outraged by the terrible health disparities that are still going on every day,” says Nadine Burke Harris, MD, the first surgeon general of California. GP got on a video call with Harris, who is an expert on adverse childhood experiences (ACEs). Her book, The Deepest Well, explores the connection between adversity, trauma, and toxic stress in childhood and health outcomes later in life. Much of her work focuses on interventions that can mitigate and heal the long-term effects of childhood adversity. (For example, Harris explains that a child’s DNA can change when their adverse experiences are combatted with safety, stability, and nurturing relationships.) She talks about bringing trauma-informed care into the medical field through the ACEs Aware initiative. And what it looks like to heal oneself and break the transgenerational cycle of passing trauma onto our children. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Life is not just the beginning and the end,” says Nora McInerny. “It is all of these tiny things in the middle.” McInerny hosts the podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking and is the author of It’s Okay to Laugh, The Hot Young Widows Club, and No Happy Endings. She’s hilarious. This episode is her very honest conversation with Elise Loehnen about grief and loss. Which also manages to be funny. McInerny tells her love stories. Some of them are about her first husband, who died of brain cancer. Some are about how she’s never really “moved on,” and why that is okay. Some are about grappling with grief and guilt and wondering what a “good” griever looks like. And some are about her relationship with her second husband today. And how, when she stopped trying to avoid grief, she felt it all—loss and love—most deeply. Emotions are never tidy, explains McInerny. And most of what makes life beautiful is the messiness of it all. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We often think the best negotiator is the toughest person in the room. Bring Yourself author Mori Taheripour explains why this is not true: “Our superpower is our ability to have emotional intelligence in a conversation.” Taheripour teaches negotiation and dispute resolution at Wharton, and focuses on the human side of negotiating. Her method isn’t prescriptive. She helps people get out of their heads, let go of self-judgement, and get comfortable with stillness. “When you start talking too much, you’re negotiating against yourself,” says Taheripour. She also coaches people to lead conversations with an open mind, and figure out what feels right—and enough—for them. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Historically in the US, progress has meant exploitation of someone, and usually people of color,” says Rhiana Gunn-Wright, director of climate policy at Roosevelt Institute. Gunn-Wright met with host Elise Loehnen to talk about her work in developing the Green New Deal, a proposal of ideas to address climate change. At its core, Gunn-Wright says this work is about justice and equity. “It’s really easy to talk about decarbonization and not talk about environmental racism.” But that would be missing the point and leave us without a meaningful solution. “If you say no one is expendable, no person is expendable, no community is expendable: that changes how you solve problems,” says Gunn-Wright. Also poignant: her personal experience with “survivor’s guilt” and perspective on why we need to see structural, systemic issues rather than falling for the American mythology of exceptionalism and individualism. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“If you can’t be vulnerable, then how can you expect your patient to be vulnerable?” asks Sherry Sami, DDS. The integrative pediatric orthodontist and cofounder of Be Hive of Healing sits down with GP to help us gain a deeper understanding of holistic dentistry and the different elements that can promote healing. Sami is devoted to looking at the whole picture. She believes that “disharmony in the mouth” could even be linked to a detail from a child’s birth or the emotional traumas of their parents. Today, she shares fascinating (and sometimes heartbreaking) stories about patients she’s worked with. And she offers sage advice for parents: “Be very committed to your own healing, because that’s the best thing that you can do for your child.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Functional medicine psychiatrist Jeffrey Becker, MD, takes an uncommon approach to depression, anxiety, and mental health. Becker, who is also a cofounder of Bexson Biomedical, examines the genome, the gut, and micronutrient levels before prescribing drugs to a patient. He was an early advocate of ketamine-assisted psychotherapy for treating depression. “We are absolutely the nexus of body, mind, and spirit,” says Becker. Today, he talks about the chemical, biological, emotional, and spiritual components of mental health. And he gets into a deeper conversation with host Elise Loehnen about consciousness. “There’s a lot of programming that has reduced our consciousness to a level that allows us to survive,” Becker says. When we honor the layers of our existence, he believes we can remove some of the limits we often struggle with in everyday life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The cause of all suffering is what we’re thinking and believing,” says Byron Katie. Katie is a legendary spiritual teacher, the author of Loving What Is, and the creator of a self-inquiry method that she calls “the Work.” Today, Katie guides Elise Loehnen through the Work in her life. The process involves asking four basic questions that can turn a negative belief on its head. Katie reminds us that emotions are emotions—not enemies. She invites us to do deeper within and ask ourselves this question: Who would we be without our stories? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“It’s not really science,” says David Michaels, PhD. “It’s public relations disguised as science.” Today, the epidemiologist and author of The Triumph of Doubt explains how frequently science is manipulated across industries—from tobacco to personal-care products to football. During his tenure as the assistant secretary of labor at the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, Michaels uncovered shocking truths about the way major industries distort scientific studies and withhold information at the expense of consumer safety. To resolve this, Michaels believes we need to restructure the way research is conducted and how we consume it. He offers a few key solutions for creating change at the consumer level and beyond (like voting, banning attorney-funded studies, and consulting unbiased scientists to analyze data). Ultimately, this is work that will protect the integrity of science and keep us all safe. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Our votes with our fork, our votes with our wallet, make a difference,” says Mark Hyman, MD. He sat down with GP to talk about his latest book, Food Fix, and what led him on his own personal path into functional medicine. As a physician, Hyman looks for the root causes of chronic health issues—and the factors that contribute to optimal health. He says a lot of it boils down to food and our agriculture system. Hyman explains that disease is correlated with the way food is produced in our country (and around the world). The future, as he outlines it, is more hopeful than you might think, though: Big food companies are realizing they need to make changes. Farmers are being supported to increase regenerative agriculture and increase water conservation. And there’s a lot we can do now, today, on a personal level—and some of it is simple. “Just eat real food,” says Hyman. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We think about loneliness as a stereotype of the person sitting alone in a corner at a party,” says former surgeon general of the United States Vivek Murthy, MD. “But loneliness doesn’t usually look like that.” The author of Together joins host Elise Loehnen to explain the downward spiral of loneliness: When we don’t feel comfortable showing up as who we are, we tend to try to be somebody we’re not. And when we become focused on seeking validation from others, we feel even more isolated. Today, Murthy shares strategies for easing loneliness, building connection, embracing our vulnerability, and moving toward a people-centered life (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We are all meant to feel alive and to feel powerful,” says Peter A. Levine, PhD. “That’s what being a human is.” The psychologist and author of Trauma and Memory joins Elise Loehnen to talk about how trauma lives in the body and how it can work its way out. We learn some of Levine’s favorite strategies for energetic movement, like skipping and chanting. He says the key to moving trauma out of the body is “bringing the energy up and then letting the energy settle.” He teaches us a sound exercise that helps move energy through the body and ease stress. Levine explains the difference between memory and traumatic memory, and how recovering—and processing—traumatic memories might help us heal. “All trauma shuts down our vital force,” says Levine. But when we begin to understand how to process our pain, we can free ourselves from shame and disembodiment—and find our way back to empowerment. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We’ve attached importance and status to busyness,” says Brigid Schulte. The director of the Better Life Lab at New America and the New York Times–bestselling author of Overwhelmed joins Elise Loehnen to dispel the busyness myth. She also breaks down the varied ways our home and work systems make it particularly difficult for women to just get to the end of the day. She suggests solutions for changing this structure and easing the enormous pressures many women feel around balancing career, childcare, and running a household. They also talk about gender roles at the office and in parenting (and how we can encourage men to take on different roles as fathers). And Schulte shares some of her strategies for building a better work-life balance. One of her tips: Start asking yourself what one thing you need to get done each day to feel less overwhelmed and still accomplished. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today, Daniel Pink teaches us how crack the code of “perfect timing.” The New York Times–bestselling author of When and Drive explains that much of our lives is episodic: We tend to think of projects, days, and life events in reference to beginning, middle, and end. And Pink explains that our brain and our mood function differently over the course of the day. Becoming aware of these patterns allows us to hack productivity. Pink shares fascinating studies about the best time of day to make a critical decision and when not to have a medical procedure—and also why the “nappuccino” (drinking a coffee before a fifteen-minute nap) might be the best secret he knows. We also learn about why kids benefit from slightly later school start times and why taking breaks is essential for higher performance for everyone. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“You’re desperate to find causality even where there is none,” says Kate Bowler. She’s a historian at Duke Divinity School and the author of a memoir called Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved. And she makes us laugh, even when she’s talking about death, dying, and grief. In this episode, Bowler tells Elise Loehnen about what happened after she was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer in her mid-thirties. She shares the moments she stopped feeling like a person, the pressure she felt to be “the best” cancer patient, to find explanations, to treat everything as a lesson that she needed to learn. She talks about how her beliefs eventually shifted. And how, perhaps the biggest lesson is that it’s not always on us to figure it all out. “I was never a problem to be solved,” says Bowler. “I was just a person to be loved.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP got on a video call with Peter Attia, MD, data-focused physician, longevity specialist, and host of The Peter Attia Drive podcast. She asked Attia about the research and science evolving around the COVID-19 pandemic and what’s known (and not) about how viruses function—and how our bodies respond to them. Attia provides helpful updates on antibody testing, along with his thoughts on what might come next. He also speaks more broadly about health span and the factors that support our immune function; sleep, unsurprisingly, is perhaps the most important, he says. And Attia shares the toolbox he uses to manage stress: mindfulness meditation, journaling, and steady-state aerobic exercise. Attia believes that the more information you have, the better—and we felt a little more peace of mind after listening to his perspective. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I try to create the illusion of simplicity because life’s too complicated,” says Eileen Fisher. Today, the founder and clothing designer joins Elise Loehnen to talk about her appreciation for simplicity (which Loehnen shares). Fisher reveals that her own discomfort inspired her career—she could never understand why women were so willing to suffer to look good. Beyond creating a simplified system for style, Fisher shows us a different way to define and run a company: She doesn’t see herself as the sole leader. She thinks of her brand as more of a big collective, and the company is partially owned by its employees. But Fisher is probably most proud that her company is in the process of becoming fully sustainable—and it’s a fascinating, hopeful process for all of us to get a glimpse into. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The best way to get respect from people is through honesty and authenticity,” says Bob Iger, executive chairman of Disney (and one of GP’s idols). In this conversation, Iger and GP go back and forth about what makes a great leader. (After serving as the CEO of Disney for the past fifteen years and writing a memoir, The Ride of a Lifetime, Iger had some interesting insights.) Iger outlines the strategies that have driven his success and the principles and questions he always comes back to. For him, leadership is about being in a constant state of learning—and not being afraid to admit what you don’t know. It also involves speaking straight—listen in to hear how Iger and GP navigate the challenges of doing so. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Pay attention to your vulnerable feelings and lead with those,” says therapist Terry Real, who comes back on The goop Podcast to help us navigate sheltering in place with significant others. Real guides us on how to step up for our partners (and ourselves) in crisis. He dissuades us from falling back on losing strategies that make us feel disconnected and instead outlines a path toward a healthier, more pleasurable dynamic. (While reassuring us that a little “marital hatred” is still normal.) Real believes in what he calls “fierce intimacy.” It’s not always pretty but it allows us to repair our relationships and build trust—and it brings us closer together. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“It’s the fuel of fear that keeps these patterns going,” says Craig Malkin, PhD. The Harvard Medical School psychologist joins Elise Loehnen to redefine narcissism. As he outlines in his book Rethinking Narcissism, Malkin believes that being a little narcissistic may help us—there’s a spectrum: “When we have that little bit of self-enhancement, that’s what gives us the protection against adversity in the world, and even loss,” says Malkin. In his work, he’s found that survival mechanisms and even genetics can be at the root of narcissistic behavior. He explains the differences between pride, self-esteem, and arrogance—and how not to conflate their meaning. He also guides Loehnen through a small but powerful breakthrough with her own fear-driven mechanisms. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Elise Loehnen sits down with Pulitzer Prize–winning authors Nicholas Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn to talk about their new book, Tightrope: Americans Reaching for Hope. It’s a story about our country that begins in rural Yamhill, Oregon—where Kristof grew up—and moves to the Dakotas and Oklahoma and New York and Virginia and everywhere in between. Through vivid personal reporting and the lives of real Americans, Kristof and WuDunn explore working-class America and the all ways our system has neglected and damaged these communities. They expose the mythology of personal responsibility, the tightrope that families have been forced to walk, and the devastating effect of one small slip when you have no safety net. They remind us that no community is “other,” and they show us that even issues as large and complex as addiction, homelessness, and incarceration are not unsolvable. We have the toolboxes; now we need the will. “There’s obviously no silver bullet,” says Kristof. “But we know how to make a big difference.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“This is not outside us,” says Terry Tempest Williams. “This is alongside us.” Today, the conservationist, activist, and award-winning author offers a spiritual perspective on this planetary change, as she calls it. She shares moving stories from her newest book, Erosions, that show how our undoing may be our becoming. She urges us to redefine what we deem essential. To ask ourselves if we could accept that this is a part of us—not just happening to us. Could we allow ourselves to find refuge in change? And: How will we live when we come out the other side? We are being asked to walk bravely into the unknown—and Tempest Williams assures us that we can refuse to live in fear. “We have no idea of the collective power that we hold together,” she says. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Healing is always a surprise,” says Bill Bengston, PhD. Bengston, a sociology professor and researcher, sat down with host Elise Loehnen to talk about his wild, fascinating, unconventional research. A reformed skeptic, Bengston set out to disprove the effect of hands-on healing, only to be proven wrong himself. (“Don’t spend all your time defending beliefs,” says Bengston. “The world is more interesting than that.”) Throughout his career, Bengston has studied healing techniques on mice with cancer—and tried to make sense of what his findings could mean for the future of healing more broadly. In this conversation, Bengston also shares his rapid image cycling technique. For reasons he doesn’t completely understand—Bengston is hilariously clear about just how much he doesn’t know—he says this technique seems to enhance healing. It involves making a list of twenty things we want, and very quickly cycling through them in our minds. Another suggestion from Bengston: When we put our ego aside, we may find that the answers we are looking for are more simple than we think. (P.S. As always, check with your doctor before beginning any healing process.) (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There’s no secret sauce to parenting that parents need to know that kids shouldn’t be let in on,” says pediatrician Cara Natterson, MD. After GP read Natterson’s newest book, Decoding Boys, they sat down to talk about different ways to approach difficult and awkward conversations with our children—about, say, puberty. Natterson explains why puberty is occurring earlier and earlier in boys and girls and why it’s generally more common and easier for girls to talk about what they experience during puberty. She breaks down the chemistry of the limbic system to help us understand boys’ decision-making processes. She suggests ways that we can all address body image insecurities and social pressure. And: what to do if your son might be a late bloomer, how to talk about porn, how to empower our boys with healthy definitions of masculinity. These conversations are always going to feel uncomfortable for everyone, especially at first. But the most helpful thing we can do, says Natterson, is communicate directly, clearly—and repeatedly. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“What I know is that we’ve always recovered,” says Sallie Krawcheck, CEO and cofounder of Ellevest. The Wall Street legend and personal finance expert returns to The goop Podcast to demystify what’s happening right now in the fluctuating market and explain why she foresees it rebounding and what we can do in the meantime for our financial health. She suggests different ways to think about money during this crisis, whether you’re considering making an investment or trying to navigate some of the economic relief policies being set by the government. “We’ve been socialized as women that we’re not good with money,” says Krawcheck. But today, she’s helping us move away from this stigma, unlearn our scarcity mentality, and make empowered choices around the way we invest. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“It’s really important to draw attention to not only the physical but also the mental consequences of a rampant environmental poisoning,” says medical ethicist Harriet A. Washington. In her book A Terrible Thing to Waste, Washington outlines the staggering, extensive impact of environmental racism. She examines how marginalized communities—and particularly the infants and children in these communities—are disproportionately affected by lead poisoning, atmospheric pollution, infectious disease, and industrial waste. In this conversation, she also takes on the IQ debate and the flawed science behind it. IQ, Washington reveals, is a misused metric that has had devastating effects on our country. And now, we have a critical opportunity to remedy many of these toxic effects. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We celebrate the heroes who save the day, but what about all the people who keep the day from needing to be saved? In his new book, Upstream, New York Times–bestselling author Dan Heath teaches us ways to prevent and fix problems before they become problems. And in this conversation with Elise Loehnen, he tells us about times when upstream thinking has solved issues ranging from homelessness to poor graduation rates to mundane marital arguments. They examine how little tweaks in a big system can create massive change and why personalizing a systemic problem can make it more manageable. “We adapt to things so easily that we often adapt to problems that we never had to endure in the first place,” says Heath. But with more upstream thinking, we can save our endurance. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Psychiatrist Judson Brewer, MD, describes anxiety as a form of uncertainty. How do we bring some certainty to our lives when our world feels out of control? Brewer says that becoming aware of our physiological needs—are we hungry, thirsty, tired?—can help us feel more secure. Being conscious about how we consume news can also help. Grounding techniques—try focusing your feet—can ease panic. Going for a walk is good, but instead of making it mindless, Brewer suggests changing your pace to match what your body needs. Host Elise Loehnen also asks Brewer how we can support friends in distress during the COVID-19 pandemic without becoming more distressed ourselves. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Climate change is a justice issue,” says journalist Tatiana Schlossberg, author of Inconspicuous Consumption. At In goop Health, Schlossberg sat down with Elise Loehnen to talk about how we can let go of individual guilt around climate change and move toward collective responsibility and meaningful change. She begins by taking some pressure off of consumers and illuminating the role companies do, should, and could play (for example, looking at just how much water is used to make a single pair of jeans). Schlossberg points out the brands and policies already making a positive difference and the large-scale shifts she still wants to see, such as stopping fossil fuel subsidies, the deforestation of Alaska, and drilling for oil and gas on public lands. On a more personal level, Schlossberg outlines ways to vote, advocate, shop, and eat that allow us to be part of the solution—without needing to be perfect. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The reality is challenging, and then, of course, our fears about what might happen magnify immensely the actual situation,” says psychiatrist James Gordon, MD, author of The Transformation. Gordon returns to The goop Podcast to offer strategies that can help us during periods of prolonged stress: We learn how the amygdala and vagus nerve react to anxiety and how to ease it. Because stress can impact our digestive system, Gordon outlines mindful eating habits. He recommends certain supplements (like daily probiotics, vitamin D3, and omega-3 fatty acids) to help us maintain balance. He takes us through soft-belly breathing and a short meditation, and he explains other ways to release deep emotional tension through movement (shaking, dancing, chanting). Also helpful: laughter. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Family counselor, school consultant, and educator Kim John Payne shares tips, guidelines, and resources to help parents and children adjust to this new normal. Kids feel safe, says Payne, when they sense their parents are in charge—even, and perhaps especially, in uncertain moments. Start smallish, suggests Payne: Declutter your home. Remove obvious triggers. Creating a calming environment can reduce feelings of disorientation, says Payne, which he believes are at the root of so-called misbehavior. For kids who are currently out of school, Payne says, it’s important to set up rhythms and rituals at home that mimic the structure they’re used to. But also: Be easy on yourself. Embrace boredom. It’s a doorway to deep creativity. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We need people who are willing to turn within and see: How am I part of the problem?” says global activist Layla Saad. The New York Times–bestselling author of Me and White Supremacy has become known for helping people examine—and talk about—the ways we unconsciously uphold racism. White supremacy may not be something you’ve chosen, says Saad, but it’s in the water, and it’s conditioned all of us in myriad ways. The critical inner work that Saad inspires can be difficult and messy, but it is so necessary. “The payoff is that you get to live out your values,” says Saad. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Our relationships are the foundations on which we build everything else,” says Vivek Murthy, MD. And when they’re strong, he believes there’s nothing we can’t face together. The former surgeon general of the United States joins Elise Loehnen from the front lines of the COVID-19 pandemic to share what we need to prioritize right now. He outlines the three things hospital systems require to function well (space, equipment, and people) and how to best support them. He traces the expected impact the coronavirus pandemic will have on adults, children, and the economy. He explains the importance of testing and how it guides our public health efforts. And he also shares a few moving stories that remind us of ways we can be present, connect, and show up for others who need help. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We don’t deal with grief enough,” says Jhené Aiko. Today, the LA-born-and-raised singer and songwriter plays GP new tracks from her album Chilombo (which she translates roughly to “wild beast”). They talk about the ways sound healing—specifically, singing bowls—have aided in Aiko’s grieving process. And how we can find different ways to make space for our emotions and move through trauma. Aiko tells GP how she’s learning to live as herself, fully. “I’ve always been a little wild,” says Aiko. When making Chilombo, she wanted to be unafraid to express all parts of herself—confidence, grace, a peacefulness, and a wildness, too. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Matt Richtel highlights what he learned about the immune system while researching his latest book, An Elegant Defense. Host Elise Loehnen asks him how these lessons apply to us today as we try to slow the spread of the coronavirus and stay healthy. Our immune system, says Richtel, doesn’t need a boost as much as it needs balance. “Stress, sleep, and nutrition are the three ways we best understand to keep our immune system in balance,” says Richtel. Listening to him made us feel a little less stressed and convinced us that staying present right now and using tools (like, say, a daily meditation practice) could help pull us through this time. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Vagina Monologues author and playwright Eve Ensler joins Elise Loehnen to share her heartbreaking, honest, and hopeful story of healing her personal trauma. Ensler wrote her new book, The Apology, as a letter from the perspective of her late father, who sexually and physically abused her throughout her childhood. She describes her deeply transformative writing experience, how it felt like she was channeling, and why she believes the imagination is sometimes more accurate than anything else. She talks about how our culture would change if we received the apologies we were owed and how we all carry some kind of wound. Facing our trauma, Ensler says, is worth it, because on the other side are the love, the pleasure, the freedom we deserve. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Award-winning investigative journalist and New York Times–bestselling author Gerald Posner is telling the wild, true, and urgent story behind America’s now trillion-dollar-a-year pharmaceutical industry. In Pharma, Posner begins with the Sacklers: Before they became the family driving the rise of Oxycontin, they orchestrated the birth of medical advertising and all the monetization that came after it. Moving forward in time, Posner tells us how menopause became medicalized for profit in the ’70s—with devastating health consequences for women. And in the present day, Posner reveals the underbelly of health care, including the ways bribery can interfere with patient care. It’s not all doom and gloom, though: Heroes emerge, and Posner reveals that even dark, complex figures like Arthur Sackler did some good. And after all he’s learned, Posner is able to look at the scope of our current health care and offer solutions for a better future. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There is always something one can do,” says former UN ambassador Samantha Power. The Pulitzer Prize–winning author of The Education of an Idealist shares her extraordinary story: As President Obama’s former foreign policy and human rights advisor, she’s spent time both in war zones and in the situation room. She knows the internal struggle of feeling that the world should be different than it currently is. Power teaches us the strategy she’s used to slice outsize problems into bite-size pieces by “shrinking the change.” She talks about the universal sensation of feeling small (and what to do about it), the power in fear (and rejecting fearmongering), and why it’s so important for women to be involved in political issues. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“When we see a woman who stepped out of line, we want to put her back in her cage,” says Glennon Doyle. The New York Times–bestselling author of Untamed and founder of Together Rising joins Elise Loehnen for a conversation about the moment she decided to stop abandoning herself. Like many of us, Doyle spent the majority of her life feeling that she had to be “good.” And then she quit pleasing so that she could be free. Today, Doyle shares a recipe for bravery and a new definition: Being brave is not being afraid and just doing the daring thing anyway, says Doyle. Being brave cannot be judged by anyone else. It can only be felt by you. “Being brave,” says Doyle, “ is hearing your inner voice on the inside and speaking it on the outside.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We’re fighting ourselves to get to a goal instead of getting into a flow state to get there,” says holistic nutritionist and author of Body Love Every Day Kelly LeVeque. As a health coach, LeVeque is familiar with the uncomfortable pendulum swing many of us feel we’re stuck in. She helps her clients make peace with—and celebrate—their food choices. In the process, they let go of guilt and shame, create healthy lifestyle habits that last, and follow a way of eating that’s nutritious and doable and never about deprivation. In this episode, LeVeque also shares her “fab four” smoothie formula and answers questions about weight loss, hunger, hormones, and supplements. For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Ibogaine made them ready for change,” says researcher Deborah Mash, PhD. Mash has been studying the effects of ibogaine since 1992. A psychedelic compound derived from the bark of a shrub native to western central Africa, ibogaine is being used as a potent addiction disruptor (specifically for opioid use). Ibogaine may have the power to reset opioid tolerance and bypass many of the withdrawal symptoms that people endure when coming off of these drugs. Mash shares the extraordinary stories, people, and challenges behind the science, the studies, and the funding. And: what the future of ibogaine as a treatment for drug addiction might look like. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The trauma was playing out in my decisions because it hadn’t healed,” says spiritual writer Lalah Delia. The author of Vibrate Higher Daily joins Elise Loehnen to share her journey out of survival mode and back to herself. Today, they talk about knowing your energetic worth, rediscovering circles of healing and ways to hold communities together, and what happens when we allow our energy to express itself freely. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The thing all great ideas have in common,” says Kevin Systrom, “is that they all seem crazy at the beginning.” The cofounder and former CEO of Instagram joins GP to tell her how he created one of the most popular companies in the world—and what we can learn from it. They talk about mistakes, taking chances, what you don’t know you don’t know, being a leader, and leaving room for creativity when you’re trying (hard) to achieve a mission. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Why do I have to be super sweet to get something done?” asks Issa Rae. The actor, writer, and producer of Insecure joins Elise Loehnen to talk about owning our power as women. Rae admits that she used to avoid speaking up—but now recognizes how important it is to use her voice to make change. She is honest about how much power she feels she has in our current culture and the progress we still need to make. Rae shares her passion for telling stories and her goal to “stay grounded and relatable.” Rae and Loehnen talk about insecurities and being awkward—and what that even means and how it affects us. (After you listen, be sure to see Rae’s newest project, The Photograph, in theaters now. And for more info, head to The goop Podcast hub.)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The fear is kind of like the gas in your tank,” says Julia Louis-Dreyfus. The actor and producer sits down with GP to talk about motherhood, family life, how she looks back on her career (Second City, SNL, Seinfeld, Veep), and where she’s going next. They talk about marriage and what makes a relationship get “cozy” over time. They talk about acting, humor, laughter. And they talk about their experiences with post-partum depression. Louis-Dreyfus shares the mindset she cultivated when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. And, she tells us about her newest project Downhill, which she produced and stars in, and which comes out on Valentine’s Day. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“This generation of women has worked very, very hard,” says writer Ada Calhoun. “And yet, not everyone has what they want.” The author of Why We Can’t Sleep joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the pressure to be perfect. They talk about the ways women—particularly Generation X women approaching midlife—have taken on the stresses of caregiving, building a successful career, and having enough money. They talk about why many of us live in a state of fear and anxiety, and how we can support ourselves and others to shift out of this space. It’s okay to be frustrated, Calhoun reminds us. It’s okay to start putting ourselves first. And knowing that we “can do anything” doesn’t mean we have to do everything. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The good news, says New York Times–bestselling author Seth M. Siegel, is that we know how to fix our water systems and we can afford to do it. The bad news is there’s a lot wrong with the water we’re drinking right now: We still use the same water technologies that were put in place a century ago. Lead contamination in water pipes is still affecting the majority of our water lines. Remnants of medicines and pills can make their way into our water. To fix a problem, we have to know there is a problem. But information on the safety of our water, and water testing, is kept from the general public. And parallel solutions like bottled plastic water tend to cause more harm. According to Siegel, we have both the capital and the technology to save our water for good—we just need to demand change. Head to Siegel’s website to get involved and if you’re in Los Angeles, come see him at goop Lab the evening of February 26. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“You don’t need to wait for biotechnology,” says William Li, MD. “Foods can actually activate and boost our body’s health defenses.” The Harvard physician and author of Eat to Beat Disease reports on the remarkable things the body is capable of when food and medicine are used in tandem. He explains which foods have powerful properties that can help us prevent and heal from illness. For example, Li says that mangoes can support our circulation and stem cells and feed our microbiome (our bacteria like the fiber). The peels of fruits like apples and pears can help grow blood vessels. Dark chocolate can mobilize stem cells. Coffee—yes—can protect telomeres and help them grow longer, reversing cellular aging, says Li. And that’s just some of the good news he shares. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“What part do I play?” asks Robin DiAngelo, academic and author of White Fragility. DiAngelo’s critical, urgent work asks us to question what we thinkwe know about racism, the conversations we avoid having about racism, and the roles we might (unintentionally) be playing in upholding inequality. For example, says DiAngelo: “We white women have to stop using sexism to protect racism.” In this conversation with Elise Loehnen, DiAngelo calls on white people to let go of guilt and to pick up responsibility. When you break free from the urge to defend yourself and start doing the inner work: It can be fantastically liberating, says DiAngelo. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Valter Longo, PhD, author of The Longevity Diet, sat down with Elise Loehnen at In goop Health to share what he’s learned about our ability to optimize our health largely through diet and lifestyle changes. Longo, who is the director of the USC Longevity Institute, continues to conduct a wide range of fascinating research on different forms of fasting: What kind of fast is safest? How does fasting affect the body? Could particular forms of fasting have beneficial outcomes for particular health concerns? (Some of this research contributed to the development of ProLon, a five-day fasting-mimicking meal kit that is growing in popularity, in part because you actually eat during the program.) Beyond fasting, Longo explains what he believes to be the best way to eat (and when) based on the research. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“My job is not to tell you something,” says BJ Miller, MD. “My job is to help you receive something.” The palliative care physician and coauthor of A Beginner’s Guide to the End joined GP on stage at In goop Health. He brought his dog, Maysie, which you’ll hear them talking about. Miller shared his own incredible personal story and wise insights about what it means to live a good life and die a good death. GP asked him about dealing with regret (which Miller says is normal and nothing to be ashamed of) and becoming comfortable with—even grateful for—what’s outside of our control and knowledge. And they talk about connection: “One of the most beautiful things we can do for each other is to be affected by each other,” says Miller. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The reason we don’t change,” says Shauna Shapiro, PhD, “is because most of us are missing this essential ingredient of self-compassion.” The psychology professor and author of Good Morning, I Love You joins Elise Loehnen to explain why we can forget about self-esteem and why “heartfulness” may be more meaningful to you than “mindfulness.” When we find ourselves in cycles of negative self-talk, how do we pull ourselves out of it? Shapiro suggests talking to yourself the way you would to a close friend who is struggling. She also has a series of tips and tools for training our minds and bodies to feel and remember the positive, the beautiful, the surprising, and the magic in life. “It takes about twenty to thirty seconds to encode a positive experience into our long-term memory,” says Shapiro. Listen to find out how. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We can decouple shame from your sexuality,” says sex therapist Michael Vigorito. Vigorito joins Elise Loehnen to talk about how removing judgment can help us reframe our thinking about sex, desire, and the label: sex addiction. Vigorito prefers the term “out of control sexual behavior.” It doesn’t mean that someone is out of control, necessarily, but that they feel out of control. Often, Vigorito finds that problematic patterns of sexual behavior can be a disguise for other, deeply rooted issues—which he helps clients get curious about and untangle. In this episode, he also helps us carve out a space for ourselves, our partners, and even our children to feel safe while exploring the varied layers of sexuality. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Most humans live as if past and future—and especially future—were more important than this moment,” says renowned spiritual leader Eckhart Tolle, author of The Power of Now and A New Earth. In this special conversation with GP, Tolle teaches us how to not resist our experience of the present moment, and why the feelings that we do resist have a way of—persisting. GP asks Tolle about the relationship between the ego and soul, and how we can come to see that we are not our thoughts. Tolle explains how we can release pain-bodies—an accumulation of old emotions. And of course they talk about the meaning of it all: “The world is not here to make you happy,” says Tolle. “It’s here to make you conscious.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub. And check out this free seven-day program with meditations by Tolle and Kim Eng.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Do what only you can do with your particular talents, gifts, and flaws,” says Jennifer Freed, psychological astrologer and author of Use Your Planets Wisely. In this episode, Freed joins friend Elise Loehnen to explain how we can use astrology to explore our own divine possibilities and potential. Freed reminds us that we are all a work in progress—moving away from primitive behaviors and toward our evolving selves is not a linear path. But regardless of how winding the path is, Freed believes we all have specific roles to play in making the world a better place. And that astrology can help us understand our roles—and show us new ways to relate and connect with other people. “Happiness isn’t in getting everything we want,” says Freed. “It’s having an experience of mattering to others.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Conflict is really what sharpens our ability to love,” says John Gottman, PhD, who is the cofounder, with his wife Julie, of the Gottman Institute for relationships. (They’re also coauthors of the new book, Eight Dates.)Today, they join Elise Loehnen to share the tools for communication and conflict resolution that make a relationship work. We learn about perpetual issues—and how to talk about them in a way that’s productive, instead of pushing them aside. Which doesn’t mean we get to change our partners—when we try to do this, problems tend to follow, say the Gottmans. “You don’t want to fall in love with who they want to be,” says John. “You want to fall in love with who they are.” And, according to the Gottmans, you want to build a wall around your relationship—rather than a wall between you and your partner. Oh, and find six seconds to make out every day. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Only 20 percent of our longevity and health in old age is genetically determined,” says David Sinclair, “The rest is up to us.” The Harvard genetics professor and author of Lifespan joins Elise Loehnen to break down the science behind the aging process and our well-being. He explains why it’s good for us to experience “biological stress,” how we can absolve harmful stress, and which supplements and health interventions he believes will keep us young, and which he predicts will forever change the future of medicine. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Not only do we feel connected to one another, but we feel connected to something bigger than ourselves,” says Kelly McGonigal, health psychologist, Stanford University lecturer, and author of The Joy of Movement. Collective joy, McGonigal says, is what happens when we move our bodies in unison. It can help us reduce stress and anxiety, quiet our minds, maintain our health—and even makes us feel better about humanity. When we let go of the idea of exercise as something to help us look better, we can tap into the pleasure of movement and feel good. It is through moving our bodies, McGonigal has found, that we are able to connect to our spirit and reveal our true selves. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Investigating what’s underneath the rage can help us then articulate—more clearly—our values,” says Rhonda V. Magee, professor of law at the University of San Francisco and author of The Inner Work of Racial Justice. Magee sat down with Elise Loehnen at In goop Health and gave a master class on how we can remain grounded, compassionate, and true to ourselves in a world that often feels complex, difficult, and divided. She teaches us how to explore our feelings based on what’s happening in our bodies, to reframe our thinking, and to learn what is sometimes hard for us to see. Keep listening to the end, when Magee explains how to use the four steps of RAIN: recognize, accept, investigate, non-identification. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade—poet, activist, and author of Where to Begin—joins Elise Loehnen to talk about why she’s hopeful. She reminds us that simple words can turn into bigger actions. She helps us identify the things that get in our own way, which are often self-inflicted rules we impose on ourselves and each other that simply don’t work. We have a responsibility, Wade says, to tell our stories—and to find ways to open up to the stories of others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We’re not just fully human,” says theologian Meggan Watterson. “We’re also fully divine.” In her book Mary Magdalene Revealed, Watterson explains why the recovered gospel of this controversial figure—which was ordered to be destroyed in the fourth century—has the power to change the way we see our history, present, and future. Together, Watterson and Elise Loehnen examine the roots of femininity and how women throughout history have always grappled with their sense of self-worth. They talk about love, why we’re worthy of it, and our responsibility to express it: “What would love be,” Watterson asks, “if we didn’t have things to practice love on?” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“It’s not as simple as choosing not to care—you’re caught in a bind either way,” says Alicia Menendez, MSNBC anchor and author of The Likeability Trap. Menendez joins Elise Loehnen to talk about why many women are presented with two options: being a good leader or being liked. She urges us to stop responding to situations with the hope we will be more liked. And instead, she suggests that we ask ourselves whether we are being clear with our vision and executing it well. Through her research, Menendez has identified principles that good leaders follow—which sometimes means making decisions that other people don’t like. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Courage is not an absence of fear,” says Mellody Hobson, co-CEO and president of Ariel Investments. “It’s overcoming it.” Hobson, who experienced financial instability throughout her childhood, set out to understand money. And once she did, she decided to spread that knowledge to help others feel financially empowered. Hobson believes in the power of women: When we surrender our dreams of being rescued by someone else, we realize how powerful we can become. She also believes that diversity isn’t just “the right thing to do.” Creating and fostering a more diverse workplace, where your conference rooms reflect the world outside, is the smart thing to do. Together with Loehnen, Hobson explores how we can see, understand, and embrace difference—and at the same time, not allow difference to influence how we consider a person. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sophia Bush—actor, activist, and host of the podcast Work in Progress—joined Elise Loehnen on stage at the last In goop Health summit of the year. “You’re very often reduced to the thing that’s the least interesting about you,” Bush said, “because it makes other people feel comfortable when they’re in the presence of successful women.” It can be scary to leave the box that other people put you in. It can be intimidating to use your voice or platform for social change. And it can be challenging to really listen to people you disagree with. But Bush proves that this is all also thrilling, important, and incredibly rewarding. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I felt empty and alone,” says Demi Moore, “but oddly not lonely.” The actor and author of the new memoir Inside Out joins GP to talk about what happened after the things she had been hiding from “came spilling out.” Moore describes the process of becoming vulnerable and learning to identify the misperceptions we hold against ourselves and others. One of the biggest traps, says Moore, is needing to place blame. This can keep us from accountability, from forgiveness, from moving on. There is so much meaning to be found in our lives when we back away from binary thinking and allow ourselves to feel compassion for how complex we all are. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“How are you going to live your life in a way that is kind, and loving, and honest, and with integrity?” asks Sarah Hurwitz, former speechwriter for Michelle and Barack Obama and author of Here All Along. In her new book, Hurwitz rediscovered Judaism for herself, and today she shares some of the principles and traditions that could help anyone to create a more fulfilling life. She talks about different ways to feel spiritual, what it really means to tell the truth, and what she’s learned about gossiping. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP met functional medicine practitioner Alejandro Junger in 2007, and her journey into wellness was forever changed because of it. Junger, who founded the twenty-one-day Clean Program and wrote the bestselling book Clean, has a new seven-day detox protocol and accompanying book, Clean 7. And now he’s sitting down with GP to share what he’s learned about detoxification, intermittent fasting, and maneuvering around the modern inventions that tend to disrupt our body’s digestive processes and overall health. “We’re living in this interesting point in time where people want agency over their health,” says GP. Junger is the one of the healers helping us to make the most of it. (For more on Junger, listen to his goopfellas podcast episode on the roots of inflammation and head to The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“You don’t want to live on someone else’s fumes,” says Lisa Brennan-Jobs, author of Small Fry, abestselling memoir about growing up in Silicon Valley as the daughter of artist Chrisann Brennan and Apple legend Steve Jobs. Today, Brennan-Jobs and Elise Loehnen talk about the complicated feelings that often arise when we look back at our past—and about how we can sit with and process those feelings. They talk about learning to see our parents—and any human—as human, as multidimensional, as both good and flawed. “It’s hard for people to live their value system sometimes,” says Brennan-Jobs. But that doesn’t erase all the moments when they do. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“When you put on your clothes, how do you feel?” asks Ingrid Fetell Lee, designer and author of the brilliantly researched book Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness. Fetell Lee sits down with Elise Loehnen to explore how different sensory experiences can help us tap into our joy again. They talk about why we, as a society, tend to devalue sensory experiences and label anything that is bright and colorful as frivolous. Fetell Lee shares some fascinating studies, science, and stories that connect our physical senses to our behavior and thought patterns. And she shares the simple tools that we can all use to make our lives a little more vibrant. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There are more and more academics and scientists becoming interested in matters that have to do with consciousness,” says Leslie Kean, journalist and author of Surviving Death. Kean joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about life’s greatest mysteries and the mounting evidence suggesting that consciousness is much bigger than our brains. They talk about how biology and spiritual meaning can and do coexist and what we can learn from psychic mediums. Kean shares fascinating stories about reincarnation and near-death experiences as well as a little bit about her coverage of UFOs (which she also wrote a book about). “The more I learn,” Kean says, “the more I realize how much I don’t know.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I was fully stuck in this neurotic paradox,” says life coach Sasha Heinz, who has a PhD in developmental psychology. That paradox might be familiar: “I do what I don’t want to do, and I don’t do what I want to do.” In this episode, Heinz sits down with Elise Loehnen (who happens to be an old friend) to talk about breaking free from mental blocks. Our thoughts, Heinz reminds us, are optional. And typically the thing between us and the outcome we want is a mind-set gap. Heinz shows us that we don’t always have to react to life—that we have the capability to create our future, and even to blow our own minds. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There is a source energy that runs through all of us that animates us,” says Jill Blakeway, acupuncturist and author of Energy Medicine. Today, Blakeway joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the integration of Eastern and Western medicine and what she’s come to understand about the power of acupuncture and different forms of energy healing. She explains what happens when our qi is blocked—dysfunction—and how we rebalance the body and the mind (often in relation to each other). And she shares incredible stories of healing and extraordinary studies (one about a machine that reacts to human thought) that will fascinate both believers and skeptics. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our cohosts, Gwyneth Paltrow and Elise Loehnen, sit down with Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor—coauthors of She Said and the New York Times investigative journalists who won the Pulitzer Prize for their reporting on Harvey Weinstein. As part of their research, Twohey and Kantor interviewed many women, GP among them. Today, these four women are having a different kind of conversation and reflecting on the stories behind the story. Their intimate back-and-forth is a poignant reminder of why we need to create and protect a culture in which we are all able to voice the truth. “I just want people to know that the powerful don’t always win, that facts can prevail, that stories matter,” says Kantor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“There’s a space between people that we just have to take a risk and just leap and see how we can connect,” says Joel Salinas, Harvard Medical School neurologist and author of Mirror Touch. Salinas has mirror-touch synesthesia: He explains to host Elise Loehnen that he perceives his senses as mixed (i.e., he hears colors) and that he’s able to feel the physical and emotional sensations of other people—as if they are happening to him. Which is: wild. Loehnen asks him how this has changed his understanding of empathy and the ways we connect with other people. And he teaches us why we need boundaries—and how to set them. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“So much of the healing that can come to us, we can create for ourselves,” says James Gordon, MD, psychiatrist and author of The Transformation. Gordon is the founder and director of the Center for Mind-Body Medicine and a clinical professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Family Medicine at Georgetown University. His work is redefining the way we think of trauma, which affects everyone over the course of a lifetime—physically, mentally, emotionally. Gordon takes us through a variety of healing techniques (from soft-belly breathing to something called autogenic training). And he shares the joy of what happens when we allow ourselves to cry, to laugh, to dance. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We set quarter-lifers up to fail,” says psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock, “and then we make fun of them.” In her practice (called Quarter-Life Counseling), Byock primarily sees people in their twenties and thirties. Today, she sits down with chief content officer Elise Loehnen—a childhood friend—to talk about the universal experience of becoming an adult and trying to figure out who you are in the world. She explains what we’ve misunderstood about millennials—and every generation of young people that has come before them. And how we can all better grapple with the questions, both logical and spiritual, that tend to present themselves at quarter-life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The world isn’t so evil as people assume,” says Joel Stein, journalist, funnyman, and author of In Defense of Elitism. Stein joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about what he uncovered when he decided to investigate why people vote the way they do. And how he came to understand where people with very different voting behaviors were coming from. He explains his take on elitism, why a democracy doesn’t have to work best to be worth fighting for, and why he believes “there’s a healthy revolutionary attitude about questioning the people in power.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP sat down with Kerry Washington in front of a live audience, and they started reminiscing about going to the same all-girls school in New York City. They talked about how their education shaped the trajectory of their lives in different ways (and also about that time Jennifer Lopez was Washington’s dance teacher). Washington told us why her heart breaks a little for her eleven-year-old self and what it was like learning to navigate her feelings. She talked about the role race plays in her life and in one of her newest projects, American Son, a Broadway play turned Netflix feature. And they talked about the other roles they’ve played as actors, mothers, and stepmothers—and the experience of stepping into your power as a woman. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We need to do something different to feel something different,” says Will Cole, DC, functional medicine practitioner and cohost of the goopfellas podcast. Today, he’s talking with chief content officer and friend Elise Loehnen about why so many of us feel chronically unwell. He takes us through the roots of inflammation and the two elimination food plans designed to soothe them, outlined in his new book The Inflammation Spectrum. He explains why certain foods work for certain people and not others and how we can all identify the foods that help us feel our best—without resorting to deprivation or shame. And Cole answers some keto questions: why we get stuck in sugar-burning mode, how to burn fat for fuel, and the basis of Ketotarian, his first book and way of eating. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I have more freedom than I’ve ever had,” says Catt Sadler, journalist and host of the podcast NAKED. After more than a decade of working at E! Entertainment, Sadler, who has won three Emmys, chose to leave over a wage gap issue. Today, she sits down with chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about becoming an entrepreneur and your own boss in life. She explains why anger sometimes pushes us to take action in the right direction. And Sadler and Loehnen talk about why they believe we’re living in an age of vulnerability, about the permission we look for to just be ourselves, and about the space we need to create to have the raw conversations that push us forward. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We would much rather think than do,” says Barry Michels, psychotherapist and coauthor of The Tools and Coming Alive. He sat down with GP at In goop Health London to share his tools for letting go of negativity, for holding pain, and for doing the difficult things that bring us fulfillment. They also talk a lot about the feminine and masculine forces at work in the culture and within each of us, what happens when they get out of balance, and how we can recalibrate. Michels explains why he believes in healthy entitlement, and GP asks him how we can invite the truth into our relationships. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We’re so caught up in our own sense of not belonging,” says Elaine Welteroth, “that we aren’t even recognizing that we’re all in it together.” The former editor in chief of Teen Vogue and the author of More than Enough joins Elise Loehnen to talk about making space for ourselves and others at the office and in love. Welteroth believes that struggle and heartbreak serve a purpose and that hers have shown her that she is far more resilient than she had imagined. They talk about coming into their own as women and as leaders. They talk about race, colorism, diversity, white privilege, “the pretty privilege,” and how we can push all of these conversations forward. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We need to change the cage we’re all living in,” says Johann Hari, the author of Lost Connections. Hari struggled with depression for most of his life. For two different reasons, he was told it was all in his head. He got some relief with antidepressant medication but not enough. And as a journalist, he wanted to understand why more people were feeling the same way—depressed, anxious, disconnected, lonely. In this uplifting conversation from In goop Health London, Hari shared what he’s learned about the root causes of depression and the potential solutions. He talks about what happens when we don’t get our needs met, why “social prescribing” works, how we can let go of shame and process trauma, and the ways we can connect with one another right now. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Being alive and existing isn’t good enough,” says Dr. Robin Berzin. “We want to feel well.” The founder and CEO of the functional medicine practice Parsley Health believes that the scope of our health care system is dated, and that we need to bridge the gap between medicine and wellness. Her work melds the conventional with the traditional, and modern technology with intimate connection. Today Berzin shares her take on lab testing, diet, supplements, genetics, the future of personalized care, and more. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We may think we know when people are lying, but basically we have no clue,” says Malcolm Gladwell, journalist and New York Times–bestselling author of Talking to Strangers, The Tipping Point, and Blink. Gladwell explores the assumptions we make as a culture—and debunks them. Elise Loehnen, our chief content officer, asks him about misperceptions, split-second judgments, intuition, and doing the work to understand how someone feels. Gladwell shares some creative solutions that would restructure the way we live, think, work, and relate to one another. And he replaces complacency with compassion and curiosity.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I want to be frightened and afraid I’m not going to be able to do it,” says actor Sarah Paulson about what draws her to play a particular character. Paulson, who stars as Xandra in The Goldfinch (out now), met Elise Loehnen to talk about the trajectory of her career, life, and love. They talk about the times Paulson felt she was “at the mercy of other people’s opinions,” the years when she felt like she was never going to have an opportunity, and why her whole life changed when a play in New York City fell through. They talk about Paulson’s great manifestation (and how she didn’t realize she was manifesting). They talk about how hard it is to know yourself, what happens when you’re with people who demand authenticity, and what it’s been like for Paulson to capture the public imagination in her relationship with the equally incredible Holland Taylor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Why should you believe that just because you have an opinion that that's the right opinion?” asks Ray Dalio, founder of prestigious investment management firm Bridgewater Associates and author of Principles. GP and Dalio talk about how they hear and hold criticism, how to have tough conversations, and how we can engage in thoughtful disagreement. They explore the rare culture Dalio created at Bridgewater—one of radical transparency, where people are both encouraged and required to speak straight, and where decision-making processes are recorded so that everyone has full visibility into the choice made. And they push us into curiosity. “If you love knowing and you’re attached to knowing, it’ll stand in the way of your learning,” says Dalio. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and check out Dalio’s app, Principles In Action). To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I have not been able to find a single piece of research that tells me that anything bad happens when women have more money,” says Sallie Krawcheck, CEO and cofounder of Ellevest. Krawcheck joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about why women make reallygood investors and how money can mean freedom. She talks about how she became the most powerful woman on Wall Street (“in the day,” Krawcheck insists). She shares what she’s learned about the ways men and women look at money and why women are taught to feel so much shame and guilt around it. And she teaches us what to do with money and how to start investing with whatever we have. Bonus: Krawcheck is giving all interested listeners $50 to start investing at Ellevest.com/goop or on the app with gift code goop. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian MacKenzie doesn’t like when people tell him to “just breathe” either. So even though he’s the founder of a (great, practical, helpful) breathing app (State), you won’t hear those words coming out of his mouth. MacKenzie, the founder of Power Speed Endurance and a performance junkie, joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about tools for dealing with stress and anxiety. He explains the difference between sympathetic and parasympathetic personalities and how we can use this knowledge to plan our day in a way that avoids burnout. He explains why we don’t make good decisions when we’re stressed out (we default to habitual responses). He convinces us of the power of breath, tells us the times and places where mouth breathing is okay, and challenges us to get through a workout with our mouths shut. Learning to control our breath, MacKenzie says, helps us run our nervous system—rather than letting it run us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Ninety-nine percent of the time when we use the word ‘can’t,’ it’s really a euphemism for ‘won’t,’” says entrepreneur Marie Forleo, the author of Everything Is Figureoutable. Forleo’s specialty is bridging the gap between thinking about doing something and doing it. She believes that clarity comes from engagement, not thought. And that fear is directive, and that most of the time, it’s “trying to nudge us to a project or a possibility or a growth edge where there’s magic.” She shares her tools for following fear and for pushing beyond the mental blocks that keep us from tackling our goals. She acknowledges how scary it can be to admit what we dream of doing—and how difficult it can be even to decipher what we want. She encourages us to imagine the worst-case scenario first and figure out how to work our way back from it. And then: Imagine the very-best-case scenario. And take a step, even a small step, toward it. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Peggy Orenstein, bestselling author of Girls and Sex, explores the gaps and nuances of intimacy. Today, she talks to Elise about how girls and women are taught that being sexy is important, but being “sexual” is reserved for men. They talk about why women are groomed to think about the potential dangers and harms of sex first—and why we often never learn to prioritize joy (or orgasm). Orenstein’s research involves a lot of fieldwork—she visits fraternities the morning after a party to find out why texting a sexual partner the next day can be so fraught. She helps us reframe the way we think about sex and pleasure. She helps us take back control of our own sexual experience. And she guides us as we try to help our children and the generations behind us to grow into their own fulfilling intimate lives.  (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is a handbook for people of all political leanings and persuasions—and for people who aren’t political at all but want to meaningfully engage with an issue. Shannon Watts—author of Fight Like a Mother, founder of Moms Demand Action, mother of five, and self-described type A personality—never thought she’d find herself leading a movement. But she stepped to the front of one, and her life (and our world) has never been the same since. Moms Demand Action is one of the largest grassroots movements in the country, focused on protecting people from gun violence. You’ll be surprised by what Watts has learned about gun sense, buoyed by the victories she’s already had, and convinced by her conviction that there’s a better ending coming. And whatever issue matters to you, you’ll want her road map for getting involved, in small ways or big, to guide you through the practical and the emotional. (And if you want to get involved with Moms Demand Action, text “READY” to 644-33. For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Although Michelle Pfeiffer and GP do talk about acting and costars, they also talk about who they are off-screen. They talk about why they both decided to get married a second time and what they’ve learned from committing to intimacy. And of course, they talk about how Pfeiffer got into nontoxic beauty, how she wound up on the board of the Environmental Working Group, and her innovative, incredibly cool line of clean perfumes, Henry Rose. After GP sampled each one, we knew we needed to get our hands on these fragrances, so we stocked every Henry Rose scent in the goop shop. Happy listening, shopping, and spritzing. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All parents need to know one thing, says Esther Wojcicki: “There is no perfect parenting.” Wojcicki is the author of How to Raise Successful People, a legendary journalism teacher, and founder of the renowned Media Arts programs at Palo Alto High School. She’s also the mother of three famously successful women. And today, she’s sharing her formula for raising, mentoring, and developing people to reach their highest potential. It starts with her acronym TRICK: trust, respect, independence, collaboration, and kindness. If you’re a parent, it involves giving yourself a break and finding ways to empower your children to be independent thinkers. And for many more of us (parents or not), it means rethinking our assumptions of what it takes to be happy, to be impactful, to be successful in the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We get into fear, and then we assume what we’re feeling is ours,” says Dana Childs, an intuitive and energy healer. Childs believes that a big part of the anxiety, fear, or even pain we feel—does not always belong to us. And that we have a tendency to take on the feelings (both emotional and physical) of others. She helps us to identify what’s “ours.” And to ask for permission to be free of what’s not. She show us how she uses her intuition to guide her and others (couples included). Explains the difference between the spirit and the soul. And how we can use both to learn and grow. She reminds us that we’re self-healing; and suggests that life is about peeling back the layers to reveal that already healed self within. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jasmine Hemsley, the author of East by West, was in university when she realized the food she was eating (mainly cheese toasties, morning, noon, and night) was not serving her. Over time, she adapted Ayurvedic principles that changed her life. “Ayurveda is a philosophy that understands nature and helps you understand that you are nature,” says Hemsley. She joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the three doshas and what they mean for our “digestive fire,” what and how we eat, and how we think about optimizing our health. And if you’re eating fish and chips at the airport: “Enjoy every mouthful, eat it slowly, chew it well—and be very grateful that you’ve got some food.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

BJ Miller, MD, is the kind of person who can make you feel good about death—and, in turn, life. He’s also the kind of person who can coauthor a book called A Beginner’s Guide to the End that makes you smile. Today, Elise Loehnen talks to Miller, a palliative-care and hospice physician, about some of her favorite topics to discuss: How do we plan for the one inevitability in life? How do we help our loved ones find comfort and beauty at the end of their lives? How do we make room for grief? How do we make meaning of it all? And how do we feel the wonder, the joy, along the way? “The kindest service a person can do the world,” Miller says, “is to find happiness.” He helps point us in that direction. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We’re just not taught these days to feel our feelings,” says psychiatrist Ellen Vora, MD. In her New York City practice, Vora takes a holistic, functional-medicine approach to mental health. She sees symptoms—anxiety and depression, hormone and gut issues—as “our really beautiful, brilliant body’s way of communicating to us.” And to communicate back, Vora focuses on food, sleep, stress, and other lifestyle changes. She meets patients where they are; she works with people who are on antidepressants and who are tapering off of SSRIs. Her most important work is not fixing a problem but helping us to hold space for the full human experience (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People are disengaged at work across the board, says Laura Morgan Roberts, PhD, an organizational psychologist who teaches executive and leadership programs at places like Harvard Business School and Georgetown McDonough. Some people are so actively disengaged, says Roberts, that employers would be better off paying them to stay home. But Roberts is here to show us how to find joy in our careers and how to help others do the same. She tells us what companies and leaders are doing wrong, ways we can do better, and why she believes in a framework she calls radical affirmation. Our individual, diverse strengths can absolutely complement one another and align with the collective goal of our organizations, says Roberts. And we can “feed our soul” while adding value to the bigger picture. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We are either living in a suffering state, or we are living in a beautiful state,” says philosopher Preethaji. “There is no third state.” Which state are you nurturing? asks Preethaji, who is a coauthor (with her husband, Krishnaji) of a new book called The Four Sacred Secrets. Are you fueling the suffering state (stress, worry, fear), or are you cultivating a beautiful state (joy, love, understanding)? Today, Preethaji shows us how to get to that beautiful state. And how to connect to ourselves and expand our consciousness along the way. (Don’t miss her short guided meditation at the very end.) (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We don’t actually detect things in the world,” says neuroscientist and psychologist Lisa Barrett. “We infer what we expect to see.” Barrett is the author of How Emotions are Made, a book that overturns a lot of what we thought we knew about the mind and brain. For one, we aren’t as good at reading other people as we think, says Barrett. Emotions don’t live in distinct parts of the brain. They aren’t universally expressed. When it comes to expressing emotion, Barrett says, variability is the norm. She shows us how we construct emotion in the moment and how we make sense of our body’s sensations. And: She teaches us how to master a significant system of regulation that she calls “the body budget.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Gervais, a high-performance psychologist and the host of the podcast Finding Mastery, always loved sports. But he says he struggled “above the neck.” His own mental blocks got in the way when it came time to compete. Gervais got curious about this: How do we perform at our highest potential? He did a lot of research, and he decided that competition was great but that it goes wrong when we’re trying to compete to be better than other people. Today, he helps people become the best versions of themselves (whether they’re a pro athlete or not). He teaches people how to “train our craft, body, and mind.” And to live in the present moment, where he says all our potential lies. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“To me, justice is when everybody has a fighting chance to have a fighting chance,” says Lindsay Toczylowski, cofounder and immigration attorney at Immigrant Defenders Law Center—and easily one of the most inspirational people we’ve ever met. Toczylowski represents the most marginalized children, mothers, and fathers who are being traumatized in the family separation crisis. She does it with grace. She reminds us of the humanity in this world, that we don’t need to look away, that there is something we can all do to help—and she moves us to change. After you hear her, you’ll want to learn about, donate to, or otherwise support an organization she mentions (in addition to her own): Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Al Otro Lado, Immigrant Families Together California, Border Angels, This Is About Humanity, ACLU. (And, be sure you’re registered to vote in the next election.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When it comes to beauty, there are 70 billion questions. On goop’s newest podcast, editors Jean Godfrey-June and Megan O’Neill are going to answer as many of them as they can. They’ll have help from top makeup artists, dermatologists, clean beauty founders, researchers, plastic surgeons, hairstylists, and of course their boss, Gwyneth Paltrow. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gastroenterologist Robynne Chutkan (author of The Microbiome Solution)and endocrinologist Eva Cwynar (author of The Fatigue Solution) joined Elise Loehnen on stage at In goop Health Los Angeles. They had a dynamic conversation about hormones and gut health and the symptoms Chutkan and Cwynar see again and again: constant bloating, brain fog, anxiety, weight gain. These are not normal symptoms we should just have to deal with, they say. Instead, Chutkan and Cwynar are opening up their toolboxes—and also showing us how to become our own medical detectives. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP got a little starstruck when she first met Krista Tippett, creator of the On Being Project and host of the On Being podcast and radio show. But then she got into it: They talked about why we tend to let ourselves do only the things we think we’re good at and what happens when we let this restriction go. They talked about the different forms of love, realizing that there are many ways to not be alone, and how our sexuality changes as we get older—which doesn’t mean we stop being sexual. And, they asked, what does it mean to be a modern spiritual person? What are we here to learn? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re all addicts, according to Judson Brewer, author of The Craving Mind, director of research and innovation at the Mindfulness Center, and associate professor of psychiatry at the School of Medicine at Brown University. Consider our everyday habits—scrolling through Instagram, stress-eating, sugar, more sugar. Our habits, Brewer says, run our lives. And we get fooled into thinking we need just a little more willpower to make a change, quit smoking, drop an addiction. But willpower is finite and often not enough. Which is why Brewer is using research-based mindfulness techniques to help people understand and overcome their cravings. Part of this work is learning to bring curiosity to the roots of your cravings—and compassion to yourself. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For three decades, Rick Doblin, PhD, has been working in human connection. Doblin is the founder and executive director of the legendary Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). And he’s known for pushing forward critical research to explore the therapeutic potential of psychedelic experiences. But that’s only a piece of it. In this conversation with Elise, Doblin shares his profound perspective on our potential to heal ourselves and on the different pathways that we can open up to process traumas and wrongs done to us—and by us. He explains the significance of changing our relationship to our memories, getting in touch with our unconscious, and learning to forgive ourselves when it’s hardest. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For Three Women, her first (highly anticipated) book, journalist Lisa Taddeo immersed herself in the lives of three American women, in different parts of the country, for the better part of ten years. The result is an absorbing true story about sex and desire, trauma and longing, power and vulnerability, and the invisible forces that shape our sexuality. In this conversation with Elise from In goop Health Los Angeles, Taddeo takes us behind her extraordinary reporting. But we fell for Taddeo because of what’s ordinary about Three Women, because we saw ourselves in these women, and because we were reminded that of course we’re all normal. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Uma Naidoo is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and professional chef. And she’s married the two: Naidoo practices nutritional and integrative psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital and in her private practice. In other words, she’s curious about which foods impact our mood and how. Today, Elise asks her about the ingredients that can trigger anxiety and panic and how we can better steer clear of them. They talk about the foods that can support our mental health. How we can make (or keep) cooking, eating, and gathering around the kitchen table fun. And how we can help our children develop their own healthy relationship to food. Naidoo’s most important takeaway might be this: Start small. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Psychiatrist Steven Levine was drawn into his profession because he loves the human story. But as a doctor, he found himself dissatisfied with the options being offered to patients struggling with depression and other forms of mental dis-ease. “People aren’t just a big bag of chemicals,” he says. And there could not be a successful one-size-fits-all approach. He spent a long time looking for innovative treatments for his patients. And he found something unlikely: a drug—ketamine—that’s historically been used as an anesthetic and that seemed to have antidepressant effects. Levine, who now runs clinics (called Actify) that offer ketamine infusions (and other support), is quick to point out that ketamine is not a cure. But for a growing number of people it could be a tool that allows them to break through what has previously felt like impenetrable darkness. Beyond ketamine, Levine believes we are on the cusp of more major frontiers that will change the way we think of and address depression. His work and perspective carry much-deserved hope for us all. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Across the board, people tend to be terrible at answering the question “What do I want to do with my life?” Dave Evans, a coauthor of Designing Your Life, is one of the two masterminds behind the popular Stanford program that teaches students how to figure this out. With Bill Burnett, he’s created a playbook that anyone can follow to design a life that’s meaningful to them. Evans reminds us that there isn’t one best version of our life—there are a lot of good versions. He shows us how to prototype and pick from these different realities, and he convinces us not to bother with predictions. He tells us why the current career model is broken, why we sometimes get stuck in jobs we don’t like, and how we can more effectively navigate the hiring process. Get curious, talk to people, try stuff, tell your story, Evans says. And whatever you do: Start where you are. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

An award-winning writer and activist for LGBTQ rights, mental health, and the arts, Andrew Solomon is adept at reframing misconceptions about what it means to be human. In this moving conversation, Solomon and goop chief content officer Elise Loehnen talk about why we crave exceptionalism and cling to sameness. Why we confuse the average with the ideal. Why we waste time hiding our shortcomings and strengthening our strengths. Why we’re threatened by difference. Why we misunderstand the experience of having a disability or being a prodigy. They talk about the difference between love and acceptance, expanding the definition of family,and the ways our lives can be enriched by the diversity of the world. And how we can encourage ourselves and our children to use the challenges we’re faced with to live a remarkable life. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Have you ever wondered what a psychotherapist would think about you? Or what goes on in your therapist’s life outside of office hours? Lori Gottlieb, the author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, is demystifying what she calls the rich human experience between therapist and patient—and she’s seen it from both ends of the couch. In this honest chat, Gottlieb talks with goop’s chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about the difference between pain and suffering, why we sometimes muck around in our hurt feelings, how to move forward—and the best thing to do when a friend has stalled. Gottlieb’s toolbox isn’t typical: She believes that we should use envy to help us define and go after what we want. And above all, that we should feel our feelings. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

According to Lacy Phillips, a manifestation advisor—she’ll explain what that means—manifesting isn’t about positivity. And you don’t get what you want by visualizing until you’re blue in the face. Your ability to manifest—love, money, career—comes from your self-worth, says Phillips. And to align with what you desire, she believes you need to mine and curate your subconscious. Repair old wounds and patterns. Find the “expanders” who can help you along the way. Phillips thinks of manifestation as a trust muscle—and now you can strengthen yours. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Why are we coming together, what do we care about, and how do we focus the light on that?” Priya Parker, author of The Art of Gathering, asks this before dinner parties, school conferences, office meetings, and weddings. Her day job is working with groups on conflict resolution, but she’s become known for her insight into designing gatherings of all kinds that create meaning, trust, and emotional bonds between people. Being a good host does not mean fancy invitations, the right flatware, or a gift bag. And forget about trying to be a “chill host.” The key to any gathering, Parker says, is building in opportunities for connection. And if we can shift from gatherings focused on things to gatherings focused on people, Parker believes we can transform the way we relate to one another on a much larger scale. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We are light beings,” says chiropractor John Amaral. To which body-alignment specialist Lauren Roxburgh adds, “And that light gets compressed when we are stuck.” These two incredibly intuitive and talented healers came together at In goop Health Los Angeles to chat with Elise about: how energy moves through the body, where and why it gets blocked, and how we can release stored stress, pain, and trauma. In the process, Roxburgh explains why the fascia and pelvic floor matter (read her new book, The Power Source,for more). And Amaral outlines the simple (really) ways that we can reconnect to our bodies and feel most alive. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In partnership with our friends at Ketel One Botanical There’s a lot we misunderstand about empathy, says Jamil Zaki, a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the author of The War for Kindness. Which is good.In this episode, he’s talking with Elise about empathetic distress—why empathy doesn’t always mean taking on the pain or struggle of someone else, and why being empathic can be a joyous experience. He explains what keeps us from this kind of empathy and connection: often shame. And he teaches us about finding a language for our feelings: “The people who can name their emotions are also most effective at working with them.” His take-home point? Empathy isn’t something we are born with; it’s something we build. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Elizabeth Gilbert—beloved author of City of Girls; Eat, Pray, Love;and Big Magic—opened up In goop Health Los Angeles with GP. We cried. We laughed. They talked about creativity, spirituality, grief, and mothering. “I think of creativity as a relationship—not between self and self but between self and mystery,” says Gilbert. For Gilbert, the simplest way for us to connect with a force greater than ourselves is through creativity with a little c. (To be clear: This does not mean you need to be a writer or a self-described creative. There are a lot of ways to create in the world, which they get into.) Gilbert said one profound thing after another, but her perspective on the relationship between creativity and grief will stick with us forever. Creativity, Gilbert teaches, can get us through some hard moments. It can be a path to learning how to love, care, and mother ourselves. And it can help us find those strange jewels that the universe has buried within us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What drives people to change, to heal, to reinvent themselves? On goopfellas, two friends who have become familiar with unlikely personal transformations have raw conversations with people who have experienced profound shifts in perspective and well-being.  Together, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC, and chef Seamus Mullen get at the catalysts that bring people out of their dark night and into their purpose.  Each of their goopfellas guests- from athletes to actors to authors- is different.  But you'll likely see pieces of yourself in all their conversations, reflected in every one of their challenges.  New episodes every Wednesday.  Subscribe now and never miss an episode. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“What you appreciate, appreciates,” says Lynne Twist, global activist and author of The Soul of Money. What she means: When we let go of what we don’t really need, we find the freedom to turn our attention toward what we already have. Twist joined our chief content officer Elise Loehnen at our last In goop Health in Los Angeles for a conversation about our money culture—how it was created, why we buy into, the ways its failing to serve us, and how we can change it. Most of us, Twist finds, regardless of how much wealth we’ve amassed, have a strained relationship with money—which, often isn’t really about money. She tells us about the three toxic myths of scarcity and redefines our sense of prosperity and abundance. Having “enough” is not an amount, Twist says, but a state of being. She’s helping us all get there. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP walked into one of Eddie Stern’s Ashtanga yoga classes in the village twenty years ago, and he changed her life forever. Since then, they’ve become good friends (Stern officiated GP’s wedding last year). In this intimate chat, they talk about those early days—when yoga was weird, when celebrities were sweating it out together at his school, when the consciousness in the culture shifted. They talk about Stern’s brilliant new book, One Simple Thing; the science behind yoga and breath; how emotions express themselves through the body; freeing ourselves (from ourselves); and building in a pause when we’re prone to freak out. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and The Breathing App.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I was done with being a sick person,” says Seamus Mullen, award-winning New York City chef, cookbook author, avid cyclist—and cohost of our newest podcast, goopfellas. For several years, Mullen was in chronic pain. He was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, the medicine he relied on to suppress his symptoms often made him sick, and he became dependent on opioids. He was, he’ll tell you, chronically angry. After nearly dying in the hospital, Mullen realized he’d been given another chance. With that chance, he decided he needed to change his mind, stop seeing himself as a victim, and find a way to take whatever autonomy possible over his health. He found a functional medicine doctor (Frank Lipman) who became the quarterback in his healing process and bit by bit, Mullen reversed his illness. Today, he’s talking with his friend and our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about his extraordinary comeback story—which he would say isn’t really remarkable at all. “My journey is the same journey as millions of other people have been on—and can be on.” (For more, see The goop Podcast and goopfellas hubs.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Before I can change your mind, I need to understand where your mind is,” says pro negotiator Daniel Shapiro. The founder and director of the Harvard International Negotiation Program, Shapiro has advised all sorts of people and organizations through conflict: families, CEOS, heads of state, Fortune 500 companies. He’s found that every conflict has a few things in common: Two sides typically get into conflict when they don’t feel appreciated by the other. And the way out of conflict is a dance that moves you toward a deeper understanding of the other side, which, Shapiro explains, “can really unlock emotional deadbolts in a relationship.” In this episode, Shapiro takes our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, through one of her own wife-husband conflicts. They talk about accommodators versus confronters, what healthy confrontation looks like, how to deal (or not) with someone who is completely mired in conflict, how to set boundaries, and why the trivial is not trivial. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The way people think will affect their health in a big way,” says Apostolos Lekkos, DO. As a physician, Lekkos splits his time between emergency medicine and a private practice in Santa Monica, California, where his patients think of him as a secret weapon (sorry for sharing!). Western medicine really works in the emergency room, Lekkos says. But when it comes to preventive care, chronic conditions, and optimizing health, he believes the system is broken. In this chat with Elise Loehnen (a patient and friend), Lekkos breaks down his functional approach to well-being. They talk about genetic testing and regulating genes that influence cholesterol, mood, and disease. They talk about nutrition testing and supplements. They talk about leaky gut, autoimmunity, what to eat—and how to take power over your own health wherever you are on the spectrum. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Two decades ago, GP read Anatomy of the Spirit for the first time. It’s a book she’s returned to again and again over the years. And now she’s met its incredibly wise author: Caroline Myss joined GP on stage at In goop Health for a conversation on the mind-body-spirit connection. There, GP asked Myss about being a medical intuitive (Myss says we’re all born medically intuitive), the difference between intuition and hypochondria, how the chakras correspond to health and dis-ease, and how we can speak the truth—to ourselves. When we don’t, Myss says, we end up creating false narratives: “Then you’re going to live a lie. It takes a lot of effort to live a lie.” And at the very end of their chat: Myss tells GP the one thing that she believes is the most powerful tool we have for healing. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Part of the reason why humans suffer is that we don’t honor the expression of these so-called weak emotions—meaning sadness, fear, and shame,” says psychiatrist Will Siu. In this moving conversation with new friend and goop chief content officer Elise Loehnen, Siu takes us through his experiences with loneliness and depression—both personally and as a clinician. Siu is educated by way of UC Irvine, UCLA medical school, the NIH, Harvard, and Massachusetts General Hospital and McLean Hospital. In other words: He’s a person that society deemed successful—and yet as he vulnerably explains, he still struggled. Today, Siu shares paths toward healing and connection, including what he’s learned from psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, or as he puts it, psychedelic-assisted humanity. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kim John Payne’s work focuses on the feeling of overwhelm that a lot of us walk around with today. As an educator, school consultant, and family counselor, Payne helps people simplify their lives (which he writes about in Simplicity Parenting: Using the Extraordinary Power of Less to Raise Calmer, Happier, and More Secure Kids). People often misunderstand what it means to have a balanced life, says Payne. They’ll tell him that they’d like more time to be creative and to connect with others, and that they’d love to stop overscheduling their kids—but that’s not the world we live in and thus it’s unrealistic and unproductive. In Payne’s mind, this is a major misjudgment. We prepare our kids and ourselves for a world that is far more structured than it is today and than it will be tomorrow. In this chat, Payne makes a case against child-centered homes and shows us how to create the value-centered homes that he believes could change the culture for all of us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We've turned ourselves just into these consumers,” says David de Rothschild. “We've lost sight of the fact that we're citizens.” De Rothschild, who calls himself an “optimistic pessimist” is a world adventurer and environmental activist. He once set sail across the Pacific, from San Francisco to Sydney, riding on a 60-foot catamaran built from thousands of reclaimed plastic bottles. You might think he’d tell us to give up all our material desires and wants—but he has them, too. And his most profound advice starts here: Be willing to unlearn, to move from fear to curiosity, to remember the magic of nature. It’s possible, he believes, to engineer ourselves out of our mess, to reimagine profit, to reframe companies as communities, and to reclaim our role as citizens of the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

P brought a couple friends—Demi Moore and Arianna Huffington—together for a chat at In goop Health in New York City. They talked a little bit about wellness routines and parenting advice. And a lot about how they’ve defined and redefined success throughout their lives and careers, which has sometimes required them to ditch society’s measuring stick. “I'm now convinced that failure is such an incredible way to build our resilience and to build our own inner strength,” said Huffington. “We won't be the same people without the failures along the way.” For Moore, the most important thing she thinks she’ll ever do in her life is the inner work. What does that look like? All three women weigh in. (See The goop Podcast hub for more.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I was craving the straight and narrow path that I had arbitrarily created for myself without really any experience to base it upon,” Valerie Jarrett says. “It’s just what I thought should make me happy.” And then Jarrett hit a wall. In this intimate chat with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, Jarrett shares the path she took from a law firm in Chicago to become Barack Obama’s senior advisor in the White House and family confidante. She talks about being a single mom and how she learned to admit when life was hard, ask for help, and stop trying to be so perfect. Her stories show a different, more adventurous, and hopeful way to build a life of purpose—however you define purpose in your own life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and Jarrett’s new book, Finding My Voice.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Wellness is not a state of mind,” Emily Nagoski says. “It is not coming to a place of loving yourself. Wellness is a state of action. It is the freedom to move through the natural cycles of the stress response.” Nagoski—author of Come As You Are—began her work as a sex educator and went on to earn an MS in counseling and a PhD in health behavior. Her new book, Burnout, explains why women experience burnout differently than men—and how we can all avoid it. This is one of those rare conversations about stress that didn’t make us…stressed. It did make us laugh. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I call shame the twenty-ton shield,” says Brené Brown. “It's a defense mechanism—very classic—that we carry in order to protect ourselves from getting hurt. But what it actually does is protect us from being seen.” Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston, a New York Times–bestselling author (read her latest, Dare to Lead), and the star of a new Netflix special, The Call to Courage. In this chat, she and GP talk about courage, which Brown says is teachable and possible to cultivate only from a place of vulnerability. They talk about being perfectionists: “Where perfectionism is driving, your shame is riding shotgun,” says Brown. And they talk about empathy—as a tool for combating shame internally and for stepping beyond yourself to connect with and lead others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Laura Day and Laura Lynne Jackson are renowned psychic mediums and friends. They both joined our chief content officer Elise Loehnen (another friend) at our last In goop Health summit. “Everybody thinks they need to come to someone like me or Laura to get their information,” said Jackson. “And the truth is you don't.” Day and Jackson work differently, but this is where they agree: Everybody has intuitive abilities, which routinely get dismissed. In this chat, they explain how to notice, listen to, test, and document your intuition so that you can use it as a tool to help you with your relationships, career, and daily routine. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The spiritual legend best known as Swamiji went to New Jersey—and so did our chief content officer Elise Loehnen. Swamiji created and runs the Vedanta Institute in Mumbai. Vedanta is the study of Vedic tests and translates to “the end of knowledge.” At the institute, and now throughout the world, his scholars explore why so many of us are so unhappy. In the world of Vedanta, they believe that there is a distinction between the mind and the intellect—and that the intellect should not be confused with intelligence. Because we do not exercise our intellects to control our minds, we are run by our likes and dislikes. We are controlled by our attachments and our emotions, the theory goes. How do we break free? Swamiji tells Elise—after taking her to the mat a couple of times. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“To be a helpable person seems counterintuitive,” says Bonnie St. John. “I’m the one-legged black woman. You know, I spent my whole life proving that I could do it all myself.” St. John is the first African American to ever win medals in winter Olympic competition, taking home a silver and two bronzes at the 1984 Paralympics. She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard. Earned a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford. Served in the White House as a director of the National Economic Council during the Clinton administration. “I was such a drive-yourself-until-you-drop person,” she says. Until she learned a different paradigm for high performance—one that was sustainable, with recoveries built in along the way. It’s not about pulling the throttle back, says St. John; when you follow her method, you’re able to do more. She calls it micro-resilience: “little hacks that have a big impact.” And in this episode, we get her favorite strategies and tools for changing pessimistic viewpoints, prioritizing, making decisions, working with others, and just getting it done. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and St. John’s book Micro-Resilience: Minor Shifts for Major Boosts in Focus, Drive, and Energy.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We’ve wiped out 40 percent of biology on earth in just fifty years,” says Zach Bush, MD. “And yet that Mother Earth keeps reaching out saying: Are you sure you don't want to keep playing? Because we could have some fun together.” For Bush, the health of our soil microbiome is the single most potent factor determining how healthy—or unhealthy—we are. What makes Bush’s case particularly compelling is the unlikely path he took to realizing it: Bush is a board-certified physician with a background in internal medicine, endocrinology and metabolism, and hospice and palliative care. He thought he’d spend his whole life in academia, until a curveball took him to a nutrition center in rural Virginia. There, everything Bush “knew” about nutrition and the drivers of disease and medicine...broke. Slowly, he began to put together the pieces, which told a new story that felt both surprising and intuitive to him. Today, Bush shares that story, along with the steps we can take to move from chemical farming toward regenerative agriculture, and from a culture of dis-ease toward one of healing.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“You’ve got to meet people where they are,” says Sally Kohn. “But then you don’t have to leave them there.” Kohn, a TV commentator and columnist, appeared on Fox News representing a liberal point of view for many years—that experience alone taught her a lot about listening, bridging, and ultimately persuading. Before that, Kohn worked for more than fifteen years as a community organizer. And today she’s talking to Elise Loehnen about her incredibly helpful, surprisingly funny book The Opposite of Hate: A Field Guide to Repairing Our Humanity. It’s a conversation that taught us about listening to understand—not to argue—and about getting comfortable with discomfort. It also reminded us that we’re all way more similar than we tend to think we are. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP hung out at Universal Studios with Oscar-winning actor Lupita Nyong’o as she prepped for the release of her new film Us (written and directed by the talented Jordan Peele). They talked about Nyong’o’s path to the platform she has today: growing up in Mexico and Kenya, her politician-professor father who was in self-exile, Nyong’o’s education (and why getting an Ivy League degree was important to her), landing her role in 12 Years a Slave, the cultural significance of Black Panther. They talked about shame—in the context of women’s sexuality and also the shame of not understanding something. “Ignorance doesn't have to be permanent. It can be momentary,” says Nyong’o. “You have to allow yourself to learn. And it starts with admitting what you don’t know.” Other highlights: the pair’s perspective on how beauty is being redefined in the culture, Nyong’o’s description of the most “dangerous” (in a good way) actor she’s ever worked with, and some critical tips on getting through a scary movie. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Nothing itself is addictive on the one hand,” says Gabor Maté, MD. “And on the other hand, everything could be addictive if there’s an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled.” Maté is known for his unique perspective on addiction, child development and trauma, and how this stress manifests in the body. He has written several books, including In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts, Hold On to Your Kids, and Scattered. In this moving conversation with Elise Loehnen, Maté talks about how early childhood experiences sometimes show up later in life and how we’re all affected by our social, cultural, economic, and relational environments. He also shares from his incredible personal experiences in family and palliative care and ministering to patients in the most drug-addicted district in North America. And he talks about the beauty of medicine—which, he explains, is not about control. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Nobody changes until they change their energy—and when you change your energy, you change your life,” says researcher and author Joe Dispenza, DC. Dispenza’s work explores neuroscience, epigenetics, quantum physics, and consciousness. He’s become known for helping people heal in miraculous ways. (His latest book is called Becoming Supernatural: How Common People Are Doing the Uncommon.) In this episode, he explains what at first appears to be magic, where science and mysticism intersect. It’s possible, Dispenza believes, to change the way you think, the way you act, the way you feel; to change your mind and body. The hardest part: not making the same choices you did the day before, choosing not to live by the emotions that keep you anchored to the past. “People wait their whole lives for something outside of them to change how they feel inside,” Dispenza says. But priming your brain to be a map to a new future—that’s an energetic job in his book. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP caught up with Dax Shepard at his studio and they covered a lot of ground: They talked about the roots of shame and fear, the things that they find triggering, and trying to figure out how to be intentional. They talked about what erodes self-esteem, what is erroneous to self-esteem, and what builds it. They swapped stories: relationship challenges, second chances at intimacy, navigating parenthood and fame. And they kept coming back to vulnerability—how to approach it, how to get comfortable with it, and what they’ve learned in the process. (P.S. On this episode, you’ll also hear a bit from Shepard’s right hand, Monica Padman. And as always, you can see more on The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Boston-based clinical psychologist Ellen Hendriksen has become known for helping people through anxiety, which is something she has struggled with, too. Hendriksen wrote a book about it called How to Be Yourself: Quiet Your Inner Critic and Rise Above Social Anxiety. Our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, asked Hendriksen to share the strategies she’s learned and tested to cope with social anxiety and move from fear and doubt toward authenticity and a genuine comfort with the person you are in the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Dads saved the human race,” says Anna Machin, evolutionary anthropologist and author of The Life of Dad. In this conversation with goop CCO Elise Loehnen, Machin calls us to reimagine the role of the modern father, think differently about sex and gender as they relate to parenthood, and explore what it means to be a family, to be social, to form long-lasting relationships. Machin’s research on the anthropological roots of fatherhood and how fathers evolved to be parent figures has an equally extraordinary impact on men, women, and children—and the potential to change what our communities look like well into the future. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices