59 Group Manager Welch

The Inquiry hears two senior firefighters – Group Manager Richard Welch and Deputy Assistant Commissioner Andrew O’Loughlin – were in charge of the incident at the same time, unaware of each other’s actions.

Plus, Group Manager Welch explains his decision to stop sending firefighters above the fifteenth floor of Grenfell Tower.

Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones

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