S4 Ep2 | The Uses of Sorrow: Mary
Trigger Warning: Parts of our conversation include subject matters regarding mental health issues. If this topic could be potentially triggering for you, please listen at your own discretion.
In this final season of NPLH, we’re exploring the concept of loss and what it means to embrace the mystery of the future.
For our second episode of NPLH, we’re talking with Mary Annaïsse Heglar. Mary Annaïse is a climate justice writer and co-founder and co-host of the Hot Take podcast and newsletter. Her essays have been published in Vox, the Boston Globe, Rolling Stone, and other outlets. She is newly based in New Orleans.
Mental Health Resource:
SAMHSA’s National Helpline is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders. SAMHSA’s National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
JOANNA MACY QUOTE
“A dance with despair... became actually the most pivotal point in the landscape of my life...to see how we are called to not run from the discomfort and not run from the grief or the feelings of outrage or even fear. If we can be fearless, to be with our pain, it turns. It doesn't stay static. It only doesn't change if we refuse to look at it. But when we look at it, when we take it in our hands, when we can just be with it and keep breathing, then it turns. It turns to reveal its other face, and the other face of our pain for the world is our love for the world, our absolutely inseparable connectedness with all life. “
In this final season of NPLH, we’re exploring the concept of loss and what it means to embrace the mystery of the future.
For our second episode of NPLH, we’re talking with Mary Annaïsse Heglar. Mary Annaïse is a climate justice writer and co-founder and co-host of the Hot Take podcast and newsletter. Her essays have been published in Vox, the Boston Globe, Rolling Stone, and other outlets. She is newly based in New Orleans.
Mental Health Resource:
SAMHSA’s National Helpline is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders. SAMHSA’s National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
JOANNA MACY QUOTE
“A dance with despair... became actually the most pivotal point in the landscape of my life...to see how we are called to not run from the discomfort and not run from the grief or the feelings of outrage or even fear. If we can be fearless, to be with our pain, it turns. It doesn't stay static. It only doesn't change if we refuse to look at it. But when we look at it, when we take it in our hands, when we can just be with it and keep breathing, then it turns. It turns to reveal its other face, and the other face of our pain for the world is our love for the world, our absolutely inseparable connectedness with all life. “
