Bad People

71. The Oversteegen Sisters: Is it ever OK to kill?

During the German occupation of the Netherlands two shy teenagers, Truus and Freddie Oversteegen, were recruited into the Dutch Resistance. They quickly went from circulating illegal newspapers to seducing Nazis and German collaborators in bars before luring them into the woods…In this episode of Bad People, recorded live at the Edinburgh Fringe, Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen tackle ethical questions: When should children be allowed to take part in war and under what circumstances? And is killing ever justified?This episode contains audio from BBC Reel.Warning: This episode contains descriptions of violence, genocide and murder.CREDITSPresenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen
Producer: Louisa Field and Marnie Chesterton
Assistant Producer: Kate White
Editor: Erika Wright and Anna Lacey
Music: Matt Chandler
Academic Consultants for The Open University: Dr Sarah Laurence and Dr Ailsa Strathie.
Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins
Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland
#BadPeople_BBCBad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

Criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw makes a return to the series with a new co-host: journalist Amber Haque. Each episode tells the story of a true crime and explains why people do bad things. Murder, blackmail, fraud and much more. Listen every Thursday. Bad People is a BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds.