Chris Packham on the wonders of the natural world, changing the language around autism, and celebrating neurodiversity

Today's guest is a man whose passion to celebrate and protect our natural world has enthused viewers for nearly forty years - it’s naturalist, presenter and author Chris Packham!

Chris sits down with Kate to discuss how a fascination with wildlife has sustained a hugely successful career on page and screen. They also touch on some of his more recent documentaries around autism, where Chris’ hugely moving story about learning to treasure his own neurodiversity offers some solace and understanding for all of us.

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