How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

S4 Gabby Logan: ‘The grief never really leaves, you just learn to make friends with it’

This week Elis and John speak to broadcaster Gabby Logan about the loss of her brother Daniel at the age of 15, how she’s coped in her professional life, and witnessing the Bradford City stadium fire in 1985.This episode contains strong language that some people might find offensive. If you’re affected by any of the issues raised in this episode there’s more information at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

Elis James and John Robins talk to a range of guests about the challenges and hurdles they've faced in their own lives, whilst asking the question... How Do You Cope?