The Real Danger of the Come Down: Suicide by Addiction and the Role of Cocaethylene with Nicola Abraham
This episode will challenge the way many of us think about drink, cocaine and the comedown.
Dan is joined by Nicola Abraham to talk all about Cocaethylene and its role in suicide.
They discuss the rise in male suicide, the lack of knowledge about this side effect of using and Nicola’s own tragic story. Nicola also talks about what she wants to achieve now she knows better and discusses the many barriers the foundation is trying to break down and the current help out there.
Now Dan has learnt about this cause, he wants to help raise awareness by any means necessary, so watch this space.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Cocaethylene Is a substance that is created once you’ve taken alcohol and cocaine. It creates a chemical substance that can cause psychotic symptoms. Cocaethylene impacts the neurological and metabolic systems so much it puts them into overdrive and the side effects of this are often aggression, severe agitation and unexplained physical strength as well as things such as heart attacks and depression. Some of Dan’s biggest issues, when he was using, were actually related to his comedown and the symptoms he would have. Nicola’s son was a happy man, with no mental illness or difficulties anyone around him was aware of. After her son’s death, Nicola realised he was using cocaine and the true extent of the depression he felt after using became apparent. Nicola found other parents who had children die in similar circumstances and they created an alliance and campaigned to public care in Wales to take notice of what had been happening. The situation Nicola’s son and other men have found themselves in, is very different to other mindsets individuals may be in before suicide, it needs a unique approach. One of the saddest facts Nicola and fellow loved ones have to deal with is the fact that if their boys had just gone through that comedown, that one day, they’d still be here with them. Nicola and the group want to set up a helpline, to be the support for people who are struggling with the come down after taking drugs or/and drinking alcohol. When you first start using drugs and alcohol you get the full effects of dopamine and serotonin rises, the ‘fun’, but as you use more, chemically things change.
BEST MOMENTS
"When you take alcohol and cocaine it puts the neurological and metabolical system into supercharge and creates this excited delirium
‘It’s completely preventable’
‘When you lose someone by suicide the thing that goes through your mind most is why’
‘There’s a rise in suicide in men in this age group and this was a connection’
‘You don’t have any control over this, this could happen to you’
‘If these boys could have got through that day, they’d still be with us’
VALUABLE RESOURCES
https://www.facebook.com/groups/menandtheiremotions/
CONTACT METHOD
ABOUT THE HOSTS
Daniel O’Reilly
Daniel O’Reilly is one of the UK’s Largest Influencers, a comedian, actor, musician, viral video star and social influencer. With a portfolio of businesses Daniel enjoys a busy lifestyle mixed with business and pleasure. Daniel is a father to two beautiful girls and enjoys spending quality time with them and his wife Shelley. With 2022 being a busy year, Daniel sold out his O2 stand-up show, released his British movie 'The Last Heist' and is currently preparing for the upcoming release of his other film 'Miss The Kiss'. Daniel is a creative through and through, with a passion to strive in everything he does. Daniel is looking forward to the release of his podcast 'Menace 2 Sobriety' in 2023, his long-term position on GB News, Headliners, and the growing slate of films in the works with his production company, HYPRR.
Kirk Norcross
“My name is Kirk Norcross, I’m 34 years old, I had a pretty good run, a TV career which I can’t even remember hardly any of that, drugs consumed my life I always used drugs like an addict but I didn’t use them all the time until my fiancé split up with me for no reason and never gave me a reason and I was so upset, hurt and confused. I started using drugs to self-medicate to shut my brain down to stop thinking and then spiral turned and turned and turned until I was like a wrecking ball everywhere I went every penny I had went on drugs, my whole life revolved around drugs I tried recovery a couple of times and kept relapsing then I lost my due to suicide, and it was like something clicked in my head that I need to step up to the plate and be the man that my father wanted me to be, and from then on, I’ve been so as of today’s date I am 583 days sober haven’t touched any drugs or alcohol or any other mind-influencing substance since then.”
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