Are Chelsea bottle jobs? Spursy? Or just unlucky?
Sixth time unlucky...
Matt Davies-Adams, Simon Johnson and Liam Twomey are in place to reflect on another devastating Wembley defeat following the 1-0 extra time League Cup loss at the hands of Liverpool.
There's on the whistle reaction from the gang inside the stadium, before more considered reflections and your thoughts on where it all went wrong for Chelsea and what this means going forward.
No time to feel sorry for themselves - with another season defining game against Leeds in the FA Cup to look ahead to on Wednesday night.
We'll be back on Thursday to reflect on that game and look ahead to Saturday's trip to Brentford.
Produced by Lucy Oliva.
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