The Lawfare Podcast

Chatter: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality, with Renée DiResta

Renée DiResta is the author of <a href="https://bluecypressbooks.indielite.org/book/9781541703377" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality</a>. Until the other day, she was one of the brains behind the Stanford Internet Observatory, where she did pioneering work studying Internet information streams how they generate. The day before this podcast was recorded, news broke that Stanford was shutting down—or revamping—the SIO, and DiResta is no longer associated with it. In this conversation with Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes, DiResta talks about how she came to study online information flows, how they work, and how she and her work came to be the subject of one herself. Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad. Support this show <a href="http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare" rel="payment" target="_blank">http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare</a>. Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color:grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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