Tech Won't Save Us

How the FBI Tapped the Encrypted Chats of Criminals Around the World w/ Joseph Cox

Paris Marx is joined by Joseph Cox to discuss how the FBI created an encrypted phone company called Anom to read criminals’ messages and eventually carry out the largest international sting operation by law enforcement. Joseph Cox is the author of <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18331/9781541702691">Dark Wire: The Incredible True Story of the Largest Sting Operation Ever</a> and the host of the 404 Media Podcast. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Patreon</a>. The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry. Also mentioned in this episode:Read <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/inside-biggest-fbi-sting-operation-in-history/">an excerpt</a> of Dark Wire at Wired.Joseph wrote about the revelation that <a href="https://www.404media.co/revealed-the-country-that-secretly-wiretapped-the-world-for-the-fbi/">Lithuania hosted the Anom interception server</a> and provided the intercepted messages to the FBI.<a href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus" rel="payment">Support the show</a>

Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. It’s not your usual tech podcast.