405: ‘Chutes and Ladders’, With Hunter Hillegas

By Daring Fireball / John Gruber

The Talk Show With John Gruber

28/07/24·1h 56m

Special guest Hunter Hillegas, author of the excellent Vegas Mate app, joins the show to discuss euphemistic emoji, the CrowdStrike fiasco, and the closing of the iconic Mirage resort in Las Vegas.