We can harden Brexit after we leave the European Union, says Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party

James Cleverly says trade deals which contradict the EU common rulebook aren't out of the question after Brexit day. He tells Chopper’s Brexit Podcast: “If at some point we got a trade deal proposal which contradicts elements of the common rulebook then we can do that judgement. You can make and unmake treaties. Treaties can be unmade.” The same can't be said, of course, for Boris Johnson's controversial comments on the burka in his recent Telegraph column. The Deputy Chairman of the Conservative party joins Christopher Hope to discuss whether he should apologise. Also on the podcast: Alan Mak MP on how Brexit will help the NHS become a technological innovator, Robert Bates from the Get Britain Out campaign on their letter protesting Theresa May's Chequers deal, signed by 50,000 Brexiteers, and Jonny Abrams, organiser of the Eurosceptic Song Contest performs musical numbers in the style of some very familiar 'Brexit' voices