085: Life As A Creative Process with Anabel Roque Rodríguez
Hello Couragemakers and welcome to episode 85 of The Couragemakers Podcast.
This week I am so excited to have Anabel Roque Rodríguez back on the show!
Anabel is an independent art historian, curator, and writer based currently in Switzerland. She has curated exhibitions in Ecuador, Munich, and Switzerland and works in art education formats at Art Karlsruhe or Art Basel, as well as in the institutional museum sector. Her writing around exhibitions and musings on the art world are published nationally and internationally.
She is currently involved in a long-term project on "Art as Labour," in which she deals with the working conditions in the art world, the myth of the poor artist, success and development of the artist into a creative entrepreneur.
If not somewhere in the art world, you will find her appreciating a big cup of coffee and hiking.
Anabel appeared back on episode 8 of The Couragemakers Podcast two years ago, and since our conversation, we have become wonderful friends. Lately we’ve been talking a lot about about money as creatives, scarification and we thought it would be a great idea to record a conversation about just that!
In this episode we dive into the notion of nourishing your ambition with self care, the connotations power and money have and how we can self-sabotage as creatives and talk about the importance of becoming your own best negotiator. We dive into creative work as labour, what Anabel has learned from a year and a half of conducting success in the arts interviews with women and the importance of empathy in our creative work.
This is such a fantastic practical episode, and I love how much Anabel was willing to share her own process with us, from her practice of kindness and gentleness towards herself, the one question that has been really important to her lately and her fantastic reflection system she has built for herself.
This conversation is a fantastic reminder that we’re all a work in process and that we all get to define success for ourselves.
Anabel has evolved so much of my thinking around what it means to make a living as a creative and success as a creative and I know you’re going to get so much out of this episode!
Enjoy the show!
About Anabel
Anabel Roque Rodríguez is an independent art historian, curator, and writer based currently in Switzerland. She has curated exhibitions in Ecuador, Munich, and Switzerland and works in art education formats at Art Karlsruhe or Art Basel, as well as in the institutional museum sector. Her writing around exhibitions and musings on the art world are published nationally and internationally.
She is currently involved in a long-term project on “Art as Labour,” in which she deals with the working conditions in the art world, the myth of the poor artist, success and development of the artist into a creative entrepreneur.
If not somewhere in the art world, you will find her appreciating a big cup of coffee and hiking (Anabel hiked 2200 Km in summer 2016!)
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Things We Talked About
Nourishing your ambition with self care, The connotations power and money have and how we can self-sabotage as creatives The importance of becoming your own best negotiator. Viewing creative work as labour What Anabel has learned from a year and a half of conducting success in the arts interviews with women The importance of empathy in our creative work.
Resources Mentioned
The Art of Asking – Amanda Palmer The Ten Year Big Picture – Debbie Millman Insight Timer Yoga with Adriene Radical Empathy in Museums Lisa Jacobs – Marketing Creativity Ash Ambirge
About Meg & That Hummingbird Life
I’m Meg and I’m the host of Couragemakers and founder of That Hummingbird Life. I’m an INFJ creative and multipassionate who has a bit of a notebook and post-it note obsession, loves foot-stomping country music and likes her hot chocolate with way too much chocolate.
I started Couragemakers because I wanted to create a platform for passionate and unconventional women to have honest conversations and to share their stories, struggles and dreams. The intention behind this podcast is to inspire and encourage creative and mission-driven women to live a wholehearted life and follow the beat of their drum.
When I’m not recording episodes, writing bullshit-free, very vulnerable and encouraging Sunday emails to fellow couragemakers (join the party here!) or making new friends with the wonderful guests, you can find me working on all manners of magic over at That Hummingbird Life. THL is the online home for unconventional creatives and multipassionates who want to show up unapologetically and intentionally as who they are, and really own, live and share their many stories. It’s made for couragemakers who have so much great shit to give the world and want to leave their mark but have too much self doubt standing in the way!
